Time limit to re-enter dungeons

[Arcell]

Tell me DevilsAdvocate, what would the difference be if the timer was a day instead? Like you said there's nothing left to rank up and outside of a challenging fight you don't care about anything else.

The game was advertised from Day 1 as a more casual game. Not Yoshida's fault you got into a game that was clearly never designed for you.

[Betelgeuzah]

Tell me DevilsAdvocate, what would the difference be if the timer was a day instead? .

Higher drop rates, for one.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Higher drop rates, for one.

/lies .....

Casuals are casual for a reason. They get bored easily, they have no patience to go to an instance time and time again and get little out of it because the content is balanced for hardcore population.

The hardcore, on the other hand, is less likely to quit because he always has goals to aim for, even if they're locked out. He is much more serious about the game, beyond the point of quitting because he is bored. He might complain, but he will put up with it. He is more likely to get addicted too.

Guess who is easier to keep playing? The moody casual who has no obligations, or the sirius business-HC that will make up stuff to do if forced to, instead of quitting?

It's an easy choice, and unfortunately not the choice you would hope for.

Lol whatever.

It's like saying. "Let's let anyone enter the olympics and what we'll do is let the fat, sloppy, joe schmoe get a 2 minute head start because he is too lazy to exercise and actually run the race as it was intended to be run."

Ridiculous.

[AeraLucis]

It's like saying. "Let's let anyone enter the olympics and what we'll do is let the fat, sloppy, joe schmoe get a 2 minute head start because he is too lazy to exercise and actually run the race as it was intended to be run."

Ridiculous.

Except that this is a video game.....and that's the Olympics.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Except that this is a video game.....and that's the Olympics.

How is it different by penalizing one portion of the community for another?

[Betelgeuzah]

How is it different by penalizing one portion of the community for another?

Better penalize the strong-willed. They aren't going anywhere.

You aren't getting away penalizing no one.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Better penalize the strong-willed. They aren't going anywhere.

You aren't getting away penalizing no one.

Which is why no one is being penalized in the current system. Seems fair to me.

[Betelgeuzah]

/lies .....

No reason to not have them, really.

It's like saying. "Let's let anyone enter the olympics and what we'll do is let the fat, sloppy, joe schmoe get a 2 minute head start because he is too lazy to exercise and actually run the race as it was intended to be run."
Ridiculous.

analogues, wonderful.

So anyone without enough time on their hands is a joe schmoe, a lazy bum that doesn't take the game SERIOUSLY enough and as such doesn't deserve to be there.

Too bad the sponsors need the entering fees from joe as much as anna kournikova next to him. Either way the one giving up first will be joe and the sponsors can't let that happen or he won't take part in the race next time.

I can see that you're in the "Idc" phase now; a way for the mind to defend itself from being confused due to being proven wrong.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

No reason to not have them, really.



analogues, wonderful.

So anyone without enough time on their hands is a joe schmoe, a lazy bum that doesn't take the game SERIOUSLY enough and as such doesn't deserve to be there.

Too bad the sponsors need the entering fees from joe as much as anna kournikova next to him. Either way the one giving up first will be joe and the sponsors can't let that happen or he won't take part in the race next time.

I can see that you're in the "Idc" phase now; a way for the mind to defend itself from being confused due to being proven wrong.

Just like insults are the defense of the weak-minded? Listen, you're not doing anything to my ego friend so you can stop trying. You're trying to sell me on the fact that a 36 hour cool down timer is better for the game for casual players. And yet the 5 minute timer doesn't restrict casual gamers, so your point is moot.

[Betelgeuzah]

Just like insults are the defense of the weak-minded? Listen, you're not doing anything to my ego friend so you can stop trying. You're trying to sell me on the fact that a 36 hour cool down timer is better for the game for casual players. And yet the 5 minute timer doesn't restrict casual gamers, so your point is moot.

We're way past having an actual argument at this point; you are no longer capable.

All you want is a way to get out of the argument without looking as if you had "lost"...which you already did.

Now to make up an excuse to "not have to listen to me" so you can a) end the "debate" and b) not have to do any self-reflecting; oh, it's so bothersome.

But no hard feelings.

Which is why no one is being penalized in the current system. Seems fair to me.

Still squirming, but you never told me what to set the drop rate so no one gets penalized. I gave you two options that don't work. To avoid being a troll, give me some facts.

What's the drop rate that doesn't penalize anyone?