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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    Hi Durti,

    Huh? Did you read my 2nd post? (I'm not trying to be antagonistic here, but here's what I said):
    I did. But even so, these NMs were not designed to be overly difficult for a group of 8 mid-level players. And it isn't the 'timer' that would have made them harder. It might make the gear more 'rare' but the only way to increase the feeling of an accomplishment is to make something HARD. TIMERS are just a restriction, not a hurdle to overcome and hence, it adds nothing to the difficulty of the dungeons.
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    Due to this reentry timer down the road these dungeons won't mean anything. Getting your af in xi might have been considered content at one point but nothing stays in that spotlight unless it's reserves a semi-permanent space in the players mind. Once you did your af you were done there weren't any limits on it or drop rates or attempt rate, it was there and then it was passed.

    That's what worries me about the reentry timer. Note: I said semi-permanent I understand that nothing is permanent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    if this is accurate then I think that was the seal on the coffin for XIV.
    I could be wrong but isn't the correct saying "the last nail in the coffin"

    case closed.
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  4. #254
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    for players yes, for SE, well i hope they have a lot of shit incoming or we gonna be at square one all over again soon =).
    Hopefully this will be the case, personally? idc bout dungeon , i care bout battle changes , optimization of how poorly the game runs and general basic rules of the game.+fun
    Well, we have more than just dungeons coming. And in Yoshi's new interview, he has stated that:

    Beginning with patch 1.18 the amount of content being introduced will steadily increase and the realm of Eorzea will begin seeing drastic changes. The results of the New Year survey as well as the mysterious prophecy will also begin to manifest, so please look forward to it! Beginning with patch 1.18 the amount of content being introduced will steadily increase and the realm of Eorzea will begin seeing drastic changes. The results of the New Year survey as well as the mysterious prophecy will also begin to manifest, so please look forward to it!
    To me, that means that future patches will have even MORE content than patch 1.18, which is already the most considerable addition to content we have received up to this point.
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  5. #255
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    Dont claim then you want casual and hardcore to be able to access the same content and then say hardcore should have low drop rates. orz.Thats just plain discrimination !

    Time and effort should be always relative to rewards. But never over good gameplay.
    Except when the company's profits are at stake. That's no discrimination; that's plain ol' business.

    The hardcore have waited almost a year for challenging content.
    This game isn't being worked on because of you.

    In theory, it should take everyone the same amount of time to get everything they want from the dungeons
    So somehow no matter how many times you clear the dungeon (1 or 100) you'll always have everything you want as soon as others do.

    Like I already said; leave your fantasies at the door. This is the final warning.
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    Every day this forum more closely resembles a bunch of toddlers in a sandpit. "Kingdom kindergarten".
    Giving an opinion in threads like these is akin to shoving your hand into a blender no matter which side you're taking.
    . . . think I'll go outside =/
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    if they made the dungeons time-based, static parties at a scheduled time would largely be used, and because i cant base my schedule around a game i shouldnt be able to take part in the dungeons?

    i want to be able to get on when its convenient for me, get a party (pick up or not, i dont care) and have fun. i dont want to have to have a static party that relies on me getting on at 7 pm on tuesdays, thursdays and saturdays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    for players yes, for SE, well i hope they have a lot of shit incoming or we gonna be at square one all over again soon =).
    I wouldn't say it is square one, having endgame content that you have already played to death is still a significant step above not having any endgame content at all. There is always gearing new people/alts, maybe/hopefully there are also some sellable drops of worth in the dungeon that can be farmed; and even when that is all done you are still ahead than we would be without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Well, we have more than just dungeons coming. And in Yoshi's new interview, he has stated that:



    To me, that means that future patches will have even MORE content than patch 1.18, which is already the most considerable addition to content we have received up to this point.
    Well i dunno , i dont let myself wander anymore to much in what they say and especially not into their time lines, been disappointed to much, so i understand the other side probs.

    well lets c if the fixes to foundations are good enough to make me wait for real content in a few days =D.
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  10. #260
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    So somehow no matter how many times you clear the dungeon (1 or 100) you'll always have everything you want as soon as others do.

    Like I already said; leave your fantasies at the door. This is the final warning.
    Please check the trollish attitude at the door. K?thxbai!

    In THEORY, it should take people the same amount of time to get what they want. 1. Casual players will be limited by their need to find a group to participate in and 2. Hardcore players will be limited by Hardcore shells that need to repeat content over and over again.

    In Theory, the two should balance out.
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