Time limit to re-enter dungeons

[Richard]

Ah, GW2 isn't F2P? It uses the same model.

I don't even know why you brought up GW1, cause I sure as hell didn't.

It's buy to play, by the way..

You said they had no payment model assuming that the game would do bad based on that aspect. I brought up GW1, the same company that does GW2, pointing out that the game did extremely well in that aspect despite it being F2P.

C'mon it's not that hard to stay on the ball with this convo guy. I shouldn't have to draw you a picture with crayons.

[Demacia]

I guess that is what also Richard was saying ealier. For now, Dungeons will be the final Stage. Like Groundkings were Endgame for Years in FFXI, before they raised the cap to 90'ish. Groundkings dont mean shit anymore. Its the same definition of "final". They are Endgame, in my personal oppinion, till SE will add larger Content or will raise Cap along with higher Tiers of Dungeons. I also know what you mean and totally agree with your point of view. Can you agree with my view of the Things?

Defender's ring still means something lol.

Man I miss old FFXI.

[Betelgeuzah]

You said they had no payment model assuming that the game would do bad based on that aspect.

You are replying to too many people at once.

You responded to a guy talking about catering to both casuals and hardcores, saying GW2 is the answer.

I said that doesn't make even a sliver of sense (it doesn't).

Nowhere did I say GW2 would do badly because it's B2P. I think it's going to perform exceptionally well for what it is, just like GW1.

Not being able t cater to both audiences has nothing to do with it's success.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

I guess that is what also Richard was saying ealier. For now, Dungeons will be the final Stage. Like Groundkings were Endgame for Years in FFXI, before they raised the cap to 90'ish. Groundkings dont mean shit anymore. Its the same definition of "final". They are Endgame, in my personal oppinion, till SE will add larger Content or will raise Cap along with higher Tiers of Dungeons. I also know what you mean and totally agree with your point of view. Can you agree with my view of the Things?

No, I'm sorry I can't. Just because Dungeons are the last thing you can participate in doesn't mean they are end-game. Do you consider running a Promy-Mea in FFXI as end game? NO, because it is the START of a storyline. End game is called End Game because it closes out the events that you have progressed through. Dungeons are a beginning and not an end.

You can consider whatever you want to be end-game, but not everyone in the community is going to conform to your definition.

[Richard]

You are replying to too many people at once.

You responded to a guy talking about catering to both casuals and hardcores, saying GW2 is the answer.

I said that doesn't make even a sliver of sense (it doesn't).

Nowhere did I say GW2 would do badly because it's B2P. I think it's going to perform exceptionally well for what it is, just like GW1.

Not being able t cater to both audiences has nothing to do with it's success.

Pretty sure you said this

Oh, is that what the (PR) developers said? How cute.

Regardless, it doesn't make a sliver of sense considering their subscription model (or the lack of it).

On top of being impossible to accomplish.

[Misha]

Yes b/c the solution to low amount of content in games are timers.. people start living in 21st century. We should be able to enter any content whenever we want. If you have a problem with that enter those dungeons once a week and it will last you 2 months.

So simply put, yet some of these people are beyond rationalities >.< Plus they act like the game is catering to them rather than the obvious higher tier'd revenue of people with a life who can't run these 20 times a day. It's all lil bits of content adding up for the re-release. They are trying to please current players but at the same time they can't cater to all and their only hope for this game is the relaunch so that's what they're most worried about. Gaming industry is a business and does in fact effect in-game decisions, anyone who doesn't like it needs to learn self control/discipline when they overplay a game and says there's lil content to be found xD It's all relative anyways, people complaining don't get that... or freedom LoL Most of us have more than enoguh going on in life that we shouldn't be restricted and build our life around a game, we should just be able to dive in and do what we want with who we want, whenever we want >.> Just glad Yoshi get's it Hehe

[Betelgeuzah]

You can consider the faction leves "endgame content" but I sure as hell don't. They're only "endgame" in the literal sense.

These raids are the same way, unless Yoshida wants to retain the cap at 50 for a long time, instead of making the dungeons a stepping stone for later content.

Pretty sure you said this

Yes, I did. Because it's B2P, there is no reason to cater to hardcore in any shape or form. All they need you to do is buy their product, and if the PR pillowtalk accomplishes that, more power to them.

Still has no relation to whether they'll be successful or not.

[Roaran]

Wow, now I wonder how long these dungeons are going to last as good content if the re-enter time is so fast.

I can't believe......

You don't have to have fun more than an hour a night if you want, and the dungeon can last years for you.

I am pleasantly surpried they decided to make the wait so short, now I am more excited than ever.

[Misha]

I can't believe......

You don't have to have fun more than an hour a night if you want, and the dungeon can last years for you.

I am pleasantly surpried they decided to make the wait so short, now I am more excited than ever.

Right up there with you^^ Already have more than half a dozen friends returning just cause of the added freedom, they were afraid they'd put more restrictions on restrictions of restrictions like SE loves to do! Loving the new "Freedom" direction the game will/is taking!... Some people just love having their hand held, can't please these people practically from a business standpoint >.< Wouldn't be too smart :P

[Dubont]

Utilizing content =/= finishing content in 1 week. Even your precious World of Warcraft is not this casual.

in FFXI, Sky didn't have a timer. Problem?