Time limit to re-enter dungeons

[Richard]

The reason they NEED a 5 minute refresh timer is because these 2 new Dungeons are slated to become a new source of group SP. We're losing the benefit to grouping up and running Leves as a group, so to ease the loss of Leve-Linking, The team has given us dungeons we can run through for a constant source of good SP. No fighting for other groups for hunting grounds. No r50s running around farming SP mobs.

How is this a bad thing?

it may be an indirect form of XP but the mobs in the dungeon are Lv60 and if you watch the video the team was getting like 162 SP per mob. Yoshida already said they are focusing on making true leveling a more "field grind" oriented experience along with quests for parties.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

it may be an indirect form of XP but the mobs in the dungeon are Lv60 and if you watch the video the team was getting like 162 SP per mob. Yoshida already said they are focusing on making true leveling a more "field grind" oriented experience along with quests for parties.

AND dungeons.

[Zkieve]

The reason they NEED a 5 minute refresh timer is because these 2 new Dungeons are slated to become a new source of group SP. We're losing the benefit to grouping up and running Leves as a group, so to ease the loss of Leve-Linking, The team has given us dungeons we can run through for a constant source of good SP. No fighting for other groups for hunting grounds. No r50s running around farming SP mobs.

How is this a bad thing?

so assuming this is the objective of this dungeons a no entry limit is understandable , at least for the level 30 dungeon.

The level 50 dungeon , well , i think for that 1 the complains are legit, unless of course you start there at 40 to reach 50 or something between those lines.I agree tough everyone should had seen this coming miles away.

That only brings us to this other point, no end game content yet ! Not that i care personally about end game content.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

so assuming this is the objective of this dungeons a no entry limit is understandable , at least for the level 30 dungeon.

The level 50 dungeon , well , i think for that 1 the complains are legit, unless of course you start there at 40 to reach 50 or something between those lines.

The r50 dungeon is actually a r45 and considering how much SP it takes to level at those higher levels, it will probably take just as long to level from 45-50 in the r45 dungeon as it would to rank from 25-35 in the r25 dungeon.

[Jennestia]

Maybe the dungeons will require some sort of item or currency to enter? Otherwise yeah it's a bit iffy. No risk all reward.

Exactly what people complained and wanted to petition for.

[Wolfie]

Going around in circles here - just more players telling players "go and play this way if you don't like it". notice how i'm a hardcore player and don't tell you to "play a certain way"? If the lockout was 36 hours SE wouldn't be telling you YOU CANT play the dungeon was much as you want, because you would be able to - every 36 hours.

If you don't like playstyle A, but like playstyle B, and you can pursue playstyle B and have fun, what kind of moron would stick to A?

I'm telling you to play whichever way you like because I would be a douche if I said otherwise. Kinda like how you're being a douche to the people who want to play this thing all day. It has no effect on you. They'll burn out and you'll still be here having fun after two months because you played in a way which you liked.

And yes, you ARE telling me to play a certain way because you're asking the devs to FORCE me to only do one or two dungeons a day. What if I WANT to do 12 a day? How are you NOT telling me to play a certain way if you're telling me that I should only be able to do 1-2 a day?

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Exactly what people complained and wanted to petition for.

The grass on the other side is always greener. /sigh

[Zkieve]

I think woflie and richard should read durtymunkey post , if this is not end game and instead a "leveling dungeon" , is ok.

In short, dont expect to obtain super mega rare items from here. If its used as leveling grounds.

[Bigglesworth]

another thought as well, it was said that the dungeons have quest "requisites", meaning the dungeons will be tied to a NPC quest-giver. The 5 minute timer will be nice for parties wiping, giving them time to collect and regroup and re-enter. If you actually complete the dungeon, you may at the same time complete the quest, and will thefore have to go pull a new repeatable quest to re-enter the dungeon again? No one has said if the NPC quest giver has a re-timer on them.

[Richard]

And yes, you ARE telling me to play a certain way because you're asking the devs to FORCE me to only do one or two dungeons a day. What if I WANT to do 12 a day? How are you NOT telling me to play a certain way if you're telling me that I should only be able to do 1-2 a day?

There will always be limitations and restrictions in MMOs. I want to use Speed Surge on my ARC but I can't so I should complain that SE isn't conforming to my playstyle right?

Absolutely ridiculous.