Time limit to re-enter dungeons

[Aramil]

I see a 5 min re-enter time leading to the following:

Promote Solo Play: Players get bored of easy stuff, try to solo dungeons as a challenge, with short reenter time and no enterance payment, its a win-win. Players not wiling to wait to form a proper party but just grab random bodies and zombie through it, again, 5 min recast and no payment, you fail, you all exit and try again, skilless stay skilless.

Isn't there a party size limit for the dungeons? I thought you had to be 4 for the rank 25 dungeon and 8 for the rank 45 one.

[Griss]

Isn't there a party size limit for the dungeons? I thought you had to be 4 for the rank 25 dungeon and 8 for the rank 45 one.

Correct as it stands right now you have to meet the minimum party size requirments. this is subject to change later down the line of course.

[Teknoman]

Dont forget you'll want to wait until weakness wears off, and we dont know the limit to how many parties can enter an instance at once (or do we?)

[Teknoman]

You'll be able to enjoy the content just fine if its not easy to steamroll through the multiple paths/objectives.

[Amsai]

I dont mind if there is a short time limit on re-entering from the point of getting burnt out or making the content get old too fast. There are a few things though tht are important. The dungeons should be fun, challenging, and give good loot that is not dropped like candy. In regards to what is bad about the 5 min time limit, I only see one that bothers me, but its a big one. With a 24hr to 72 hr time limit, you can limit how often people go in so that more groups get a chance. But with the fact that its first come first serve, and it only has a 5 min time limit on re-entering, and we know that there will be a limit on the number of groups that can simultaneously enter the instance........... this could be a huge problem. There is nothing to stop people from spamming the Instances over and over. So I have a really slow ISP and I lag all the time. Does this mean I'll never get to see the Dungeon until its popularity dies down in several months and all because I cant spam the entrance fast enough?

For clarity, I could care less about any other issue related to the quick re-entering of the dungeon with the exception of even being able to access it. Couldnt they have gone with a more resonable system? Like maybe anyone can go say 10 or 20 x a week at any point they want too (provided the instance isnt at max group capacity). That way people could still go more often than once every day or 2, and could even go a bunch of times in a row, but it wouldnt cause a never-ending bottle-neck that would always make it hard to enter due to the spamming, even though supposedly I should be able to enter every 5 mins. This is the bigger issue to me, not whether we should be able to enter that often or not.

[Umo]

TL;DR Bla-bla-bla

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[Zdenka]

Hardcore will get stuff done first regardless of lockout or not.

5 minute timer won't matter for casuals since they (most likely) will never run it 2 times in a row.

What was mentioned earlier in the thread was that with a lower lockout (such as 5 minutes) SE will probably lower drop rates because you can go through it so many times. If the lockout was 48 hours SE could raise the drop rates since you'd be able to do the dungeon less but get rewarded roughly the same (which actually benefits casuals as gear/hr spent is increased).

Obviously it might be more difficult to form parties under an extended lockout so those whom cannot plan ahead all the time (Casuals) end up suffering.


Theres no exact medium in this regard of Hardcore vs Casual dungeon fromping unless its not end-game (and it probably isn't by definition of other MMO's endgame material). I would personally use a currency or a building currency that you get 1 per 16 hrs or something and can save up to 10... then you could do dungeon 10 times in a row if you wanted or whatever.

[Teknoman]

Nah not really.

[Kam]

So if they take an hour to complete. 5mins bathroom break. Back in. 3~4 runs a night...

Errrr. I'm seriously expecting a salvage type system, one thats kinder. But one that still gives the devs sometime to pump out more content.

I seriously hope they aren't dumb enough to let us rape their "content" in a week.