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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinook View Post
    Tho I can understand the arguments behind the pro 5 min re-entry people, I don't think we use the same logic and global vision for this particular situation. Some people explained the negative impacts of 5 min re-entry really well, but we'll never agree.

    Like it or not, any kind of games or sports need to have some kind of restrictions to make things interesting. Everything would be boring without them (just take your favorite game, hobby or sport and imagine it without restrictions or rules). This game is in fact a pretty good example of a game that lacked restrictions and challenge. I personally still like it and have faith, but the vast majority doesn't.

    On the opposite side, I think the 5 min re-entry limit is good for the r30 dungeon (same thing for the 5 min mid-rank NMs), since they're designed for people to have fun on the way to 50, not the ones that reached the end and want some sense of achievement and challenge.

    We'll see if this debate was worth it really soon !
    I agree with your point that neither side will ever agree, lol. Each side has it's points and counterpoints. What I don't like, is people presenting their opinions as 'best' for the game, or as 'fact' when it is based on speculation. I will argue against any opinion presented in this fashion, even ones on the same side as me.

    With that said, I find it hard to believe that a 5 minute timer is going to be 'the death of this game.' For the people that have stuck it out this far, ANY content is good content, even if just for a day (Which I hope is the case).
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    LOL. I find it quite amusing to see people demanding for SE to dilute content with high cooldowns in order to make it last longer. Like preventing people to play something when they want is somehow going to multiply the implemented content in game.
    Want it to last longer for you? place self-imposed limits and let others play at the pace they prefer.

    And please, ignore "I tell myself I'm right because I'm delusional and I think that if I repeat it enough times it'll become true" Betelgeuzah, not worth it, really.
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    This is still mid-level content. Hopefully in the future they will offer a hardcore option with currency as a pre-req. This can still be a 'casual' friendly game without kicking the hardcore players in the teeth. Just pray, PRAY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly View Post
    This is still mid-level content. Hopefully in the future they will offer a hardcore option with currency as a pre-req. This can still be a 'casual' friendly game without kicking the hardcore players in the teeth. Just pray, PRAY.
    Considering that one dungeon is basically top level and it's been described as very hard to complete (we'll have to see about that, but we can only judge on what we're told until tomorrow), I'm not really sure on what you base your idea that it's "mid-level content".

    You don't get comments like this without anything personal behind it!
    As someone alreadt stated, you're flattering yourself.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 07-21-2011 at 05:06 AM.

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    The level cap will be raised in the future, I do not see 50 as the absolute end-all but you do have a point. That one should have a little more than a 5 minute buffer. 15-30 minutes would be ideal but I know how requests like that go down here. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly View Post
    The level cap will be raised in the future, I do not see 50 as the absolute end-all but you do have a point. That one should have a little more than a 5 minute buffer. 15-30 minutes would be ideal but I know how requests like that go down here. :/
    the door is that way ---->

    j/k, but yeah, i kinda like the low cooldown...30mins wouldn't be bad either but anything more than an hour is not welcome here.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    It doesn't matter how often you can enter the dungeon. The only thing that matters is the friends you make and the adventures you make together inside of these dungeons. Have fun and give it a try!
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    Retired FFXI character: Ranok of Sylph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    It doesn't matter how often you can enter the dungeon. The only thing that matters is the friends you make and the adventures you make together inside of these dungeons. Have fun and give it a try!
    ^ That one i really, really like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    It doesn't matter how often you can enter the dungeon. The only thing that matters is the friends you make and the adventures you make together inside of these dungeons. Have fun and give it a try!
    I give that a +3
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    Chenn Maboroshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    It doesn't matter how often you can enter the dungeon. The only thing that matters is the friends you make and the adventures you make together inside of these dungeons. Have fun and give it a try!
    I don't think anyone here understands what fun is.
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