Time limit to re-enter dungeons

[Lamentor]

I've read about half the comments here, and there's no way I'm reading the other half... I'll turn into a turtle if I do :X

There are so many things that no one is considering. Like, how the dungeon is going to be laid out. I'm not saying anything as fact, but rather as speculation, which is what EVERYONE should be done.

We don't even know the layout inside either dungeon aside from what is shown on screen. Dungeons might become our new way to gain SP. For instance, there could possibly be a path you can take that's meant for grinding from 45-50 in the Rank 50 dungeon, or in the rank 30 dungeon there may be a spot that's good for grinding from rank 25-35 or so, just as an example. Again, before anyone flames on this, I'm speculating possibilities, nothing more, nothing less.

Then, there may possibly be mini bosses in a different path that you can only take once per run, or there may be NM's throughout the dungeon that aren't always up and have horrible drop rates.

And of course, the dungeon could actually be VERY hard and VERY frustrating to the average player, making all or any of the above extremely time consuming.

Either way, my point is, although I understand the communities concern about the 5 minute wait that was announced on the French forums (though if you re-read, he seemed somewhat unsure about the timer... not that I'm doubting his information), and I know saying what I have said, and anything else I said, won't stop the flaming, I just want to say; the update is only a day away. At least give it a chance before raging all over the new content and every little aspect about it. We all live through experience, and our biggest mistakes and our biggest disappointments come through a lack of experience.

[Arcell]

Tell me DevilsAdvocate, what would the difference be if the timer was a day instead? Like you said there's nothing left to rank up and outside of a challenging fight you don't care about anything else.

The game was advertised from Day 1 as a more casual game. Not Yoshida's fault you got into a game that was clearly never designed for you.

[Betelgeuzah]

Tell me DevilsAdvocate, what would the difference be if the timer was a day instead? .

Higher drop rates, for one.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Higher drop rates, for one.

/lies .....

Casuals are casual for a reason. They get bored easily, they have no patience to go to an instance time and time again and get little out of it because the content is balanced for hardcore population.

The hardcore, on the other hand, is less likely to quit because he always has goals to aim for, even if they're locked out. He is much more serious about the game, beyond the point of quitting because he is bored. He might complain, but he will put up with it. He is more likely to get addicted too.

Guess who is easier to keep playing? The moody casual who has no obligations, or the sirius business-HC that will make up stuff to do if forced to, instead of quitting?

It's an easy choice, and unfortunately not the choice you would hope for.

Lol whatever.

It's like saying. "Let's let anyone enter the olympics and what we'll do is let the fat, sloppy, joe schmoe get a 2 minute head start because he is too lazy to exercise and actually run the race as it was intended to be run."

Ridiculous.

[AeraLucis]

It's like saying. "Let's let anyone enter the olympics and what we'll do is let the fat, sloppy, joe schmoe get a 2 minute head start because he is too lazy to exercise and actually run the race as it was intended to be run."

Ridiculous.

Except that this is a video game.....and that's the Olympics.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Except that this is a video game.....and that's the Olympics.

How is it different by penalizing one portion of the community for another?

[Betelgeuzah]

/lies .....

No reason to not have them, really.

It's like saying. "Let's let anyone enter the olympics and what we'll do is let the fat, sloppy, joe schmoe get a 2 minute head start because he is too lazy to exercise and actually run the race as it was intended to be run."
Ridiculous.

analogues, wonderful.

So anyone without enough time on their hands is a joe schmoe, a lazy bum that doesn't take the game SERIOUSLY enough and as such doesn't deserve to be there.

Too bad the sponsors need the entering fees from joe as much as anna kournikova next to him. Either way the one giving up first will be joe and the sponsors can't let that happen or he won't take part in the race next time.

I can see that you're in the "Idc" phase now; a way for the mind to defend itself from being confused due to being proven wrong.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

No reason to not have them, really.



analogues, wonderful.

So anyone without enough time on their hands is a joe schmoe, a lazy bum that doesn't take the game SERIOUSLY enough and as such doesn't deserve to be there.

Too bad the sponsors need the entering fees from joe as much as anna kournikova next to him. Either way the one giving up first will be joe and the sponsors can't let that happen or he won't take part in the race next time.

I can see that you're in the "Idc" phase now; a way for the mind to defend itself from being confused due to being proven wrong.

Just like insults are the defense of the weak-minded? Listen, you're not doing anything to my ego friend so you can stop trying. You're trying to sell me on the fact that a 36 hour cool down timer is better for the game for casual players. And yet the 5 minute timer doesn't restrict casual gamers, so your point is moot.

[lunardemon]

After running the same Leves over and over , the same grinds over and over . Why is anyone surprised at the Raids being on a 5 min timer so we can run them over and over ? Its only because its free that its acceptable , its crap and we all know it . If any of us had to pay for this level of content we would all quit .

[Arcell]

After running the same Leves over and over , the same grinds over and over . Why is anyone surprised at the Raids being on a 5 min timer so we can run them over and over ? Its only because its free that its acceptable , its crap and we all know it . If any of us had to pay for this level of content we would all quit .

Speak for yourself buddy. I'm not so childish as to quit over a 5 minute lock-out timer.