Time limit to re-enter dungeons

[Sagagemini]

We need a community rep in here asap to clear things out lol.


I play 3h~ per day.
So, I would be able to do 1-2 dungeons a day, considering there's a gather up and get ready time.
Sounds pretty good to me, since there's more than one path per dungeon and the drop rate wont be that good.

But yea, hardcore players would get things done a lot faster and "run out" of content pretty soon.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

We need a community rep in here asap to clear things out lol.


I play 3h~ per day.
So, I would be able to do 1-2 dungeons a day, considering there's a gather up and get ready time.
Sounds pretty good to me, since there's more than one path per dungeon and the drop rate wont be that good.

But yea, hardcore players would get things done a lot faster and "run out" of content pretty soon.

Not necessarily. Even farming the top level NMs for hours on end, it took my Linkshell a long time to get all the gear we wanted and needed.

[Richard]

Not necessarily. Even farming the top level NMs for hours on end, it took my Linkshell a long time to get all the gear we wanted and needed.

and it took other linkshells 1 month to cap out 25 people on all NM gear. Not every case will be the same. No one can contest that the current dungeons will have a smaller life expectancy overall.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

and it took other linkshells 1 month to cap out 25 people on all NM gear. Not every case will be the same. No one can contest that the current dungeons will have a smaller life expectancy overall.

1 month > 1-2 weeks by your 'guestimate'

[Chardrizard]

You get feeling of accomplishment by beating a difficult content, not by giving it a cooldown.

a content with cooldown and no challenge will not gives u sense of accomplishment.

[Misha]

You get feeling of accomplishment by beating a difficult content, not by giving it a cooldown.

a content with cooldown and no challenge will not gives u sense of accomplishment.

This is what alot of the naysayers don't get lol Cooldown adds NOTHING to the game but more grief or handholding for those that can't control themselves and act like they HAVE to clear the content cause other people are doing as such or because it allows em too lol @ all the people acting like this is FORCING you to play the dungeon back to back or that you have to cause other people decide to do it that way >.< Play at your own pace with your own friends in your own way, who cares how others play xD

Edit: Challenge or accomplishment or even longevity comes with content that is harder not more restricted^^ Let's just hope Yoshi was right about it being hard, otherwise doesn't matter either way :P

[Kiara]

You get feeling of accomplishment by beating a difficult content, not by giving it a cooldown.

a content with cooldown and no challenge will not gives u sense of accomplishment.

Hi Chardrizard,

Good point. That is definitely the most important aspect: The *challenge* itself. If it's an interesting, engaging Boss and Dungeon, with tricks / puzzles and strategies... that'll be most important.

But I'd say the majority of NMs / HNMs in XI could be seen as a failure in that light *alone.* (i.e., just "tank and spank" as the saying goes.)

The other part of it was the rarity of finding / claiming that NM / HNM. If Valkurm Emperor or Nidhogg was on the same 5 Minute Cooldown that our Cactuar Jack is on, I think it'd diminish the experience somewhat. Again, I'm not asking for a repeat of FF XI's ridiculous 21 - 24 Hour Respawn / Cooldown Rates or the 72-Hour ones. But Rarity (in this case how common / repeatable something is in a time period) accounts for something I think.

Ultimately, you'd hope that every single NM, Dungeon, Raid we get faced with is unique, genuinely engaging and challenging, making you think and keeping you on your toes, but I don't think the FF XIV Team is aiming for that (as evidenced by the current "high level" NMs (like Great Buffalo, Uraeus) or the 20 New Mid-Level NMs (even when we killed them on our Rank 30s). They're pretty straightforward (unfortunately).

We'll find out soon enough. (I'm pulling for these Dungeons. Here's to hoping they're fun!

[RabidSquirrel]

I have this great idea, guys! Okay so get this: You finish or fail the raid, and then...don't try again until tomorrow! Genius, right?

It's seriously sad you guys need a mechanic to force some restraint upon yourselves.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

I have this great idea, guys! Okay so get this: You finish or fail the raid, and then...don't try again until tomorrow! Genius, right?

It's seriously sad you guys need a mechanic to force some restraint upon yourselves.

AAAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDD /thread

[Zkieve]

I have this great idea, guys! Okay so get this: You finish or fail the raid, and then...don't try again until tomorrow! Genius, right?

It's seriously sad you guys need a mechanic to force some restraint upon yourselves..

So basically this is all " dont get to 50 there is nothing there" or " stupid power levelers why rush look at grass grow " all over again.

I think in the end what is inside the dungeons is what matters not the timer , but the instant gratification crowd need to get a clue about what people are complaining about.