Archanists want an image of primals...not Digimons

[Razzle]

I think the current summons look really cool. Just adding my opinion~

[LeonBlade]

Personally, i'd be far more interested in playing SMN if the primals you summon took on a Stand-like nature.

The first job hybrid will be Stand user, a mix between Summoner and Monk

You can have all the
ORAORAORAORA
MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA
ARIARIARIARIARI
DORARARARARARA
you could ever want.

I'll take The World, or maybe King Crimson. I always thought of getting the CT Crimson outfit if I ever leveled a caster, and then wearing a crown and calling myself "Queen Crimson".

[Altimis]

May this will happen 3 years after

[Chocolys]

I think the current summons look really cool. Just adding my opinion~

I would not say really cool but I like the current egis too. They're good as representing a part of the primal's essence.

[Corfish]

Also, Yoshida worked on WoW. That's not a secret. Please do not be thàt ignorant to not think he knows how an affliction warlock plays. For those who did not play WoW: your SMN is an affliction warlock from WoW. Youtube it, see the abilities being the exact same, scary huh?

So yes, I think SE took the easy way out and hid their story behind the lore stuff.

How is any of this relevant to how the egis look? It's not that they took an easy way out, I imagine it would've been a LOT easier to make smaller versions of the primals, rather than making new forms. You both are reaching for reasons to be angry.

[BloodPact]

Yes I kinda dissed the design team there but not in a mean or trollish way.
I sincerely just want them to progress and move forward instead of making it worse than it was.

Basically, why is it that FFXI can have a real representation of primals while FFXIV can't? I know it's lore related but really that's a bad excuse ALL AROUND.

Look, an image of a primal can be just that, an image. I don't want a 20ft Ifrit but at least a 6ft Ifrit that isn't a toy flying over my shoulders.

Square-Enix and Yoshida, please take into account how much immersion matters to us. I know immersion matters to you too. Make the people who loved Yuna as a Summoner proud, we want real Primals.

Hide them when you enter a city, that's fine. Or even turn them into the efigi-form you enter a city. But outside while in combat I want to see the real image of a primal.

Why not use the image of the primal we fight against in the class quest for obtaining that primal efigi?

I SEE YOU HAVE COMPLETELY IGNORED EVERYTHING THE MAIN SUMMONER QUEST NPC HAS TO TELL YOU ABOUT SUMMONER IN THIS GAME. Go back to Apkallu Falls and slam your head against the monitor. So tired of these threads...

[Demetirus]

Also, Yoshida worked on WoW. That's not a secret.

Worked on? No. I'm going to need a source for that one. Played? Yeah. He's said *that* many times.

[LineageRazor]

Personally, I have no problem with the Egis as they are. I like the idea that SMNs are able to harness and control a tiny piece of a greater whole, and I think that it's awesome that they went through the effort of actually went through the effort of making this "piece of power" have a look distinct from the main Primal. Titan-egi, in particular has a really neat design with all the orbiting chunks of rock. Garuda-egi, I'm a bit less pleased with.

If they did make the Egis look like the Primals, I'd really appreciate it if Ifrit and Titan didn't FLOAT. One of my biggest beefs with FFXI SMNs was that many of the Avatars looked ridiculous floating behind the SMN; a bit like baloon floats. Ifrit was the worst offender in this regard, but Ramuh was pretty bad, too. Titan can walk, why can't they? Leviathan looked pretty bad as well, curled up into a little coil and hovering, rather than swimming through the air. Floating works well with the Egi design, but it would look pretty bad with the Primal design.

[DukeBurden]

It's fine people are ok with the egis but lets face it. They're ugly and ridiculous. :/ if they're supposed to be a tiny piece of the primal, they could still give them more detail to better represent the primal. Titan = chicken nugget, Garuda = green seagull, Ifrit = ketchup stain. If I was coming in fresh, i'd think our current egis were subscription minions. Cute versions of primals like baby "x" minion.

[Woggers]

it takes hundreds of crystals and brainwashed beastmen to summon the primals, hell even beastmen sacrifices ... you are just 1 person with a book on how to harness a fraction of the power from the primals that reside in hydaelyn aether.

ill take my egis + lore over "look at my primal i control it, im allmighty --e-peen--" any time of the day.

also in FFxi you made a pact with the primals after defeating them. here primals are not going to serve you, they are the gods of beastmen.

This right here^ Nailed it.