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    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    I'm entirely skeptical about the "FC beats primals to summon them" system. As if that otally won't be monopolized by the same Free Companies over and over again just like people complained about NM camping in FF XI. Not the solution people are asking for.
    This, oh god this. I once played a game that had open-world spawns for major content and also had other special open-world events (with their own temporary* rewards). If you weren't part of one of the biggest, strongest clans/alliances, you did not have a chance at seeing any of that content or its drops. You know to whom the biggest clans/alliances belonged (and thus all that open-world content)? Chinese RMT farmers.
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    So like always with the egi thing is the only point that people don't like how they look? Because no one ever gives any actual gameplay change they'd like other than "SUMMON SHOULD DO BIG DAMAGE"....which in FF terms would be you summon them to do a single large burst of damage and then nothing. Which sounds even worse than pet class that people micromanage poorly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmian View Post
    So like always with the egi thing is the only point that people don't like how they look? Because no one ever gives any actual gameplay change they'd like other than "SUMMON SHOULD DO BIG DAMAGE"....
    I'd like to direct you to my two threads.

    English: (Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread (58 pages)
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...eedback-Thread
    Japanese: 召喚士に関するフィードバックを書くスレ (25 pages)
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...82%B9%E3%83%AC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbinder View Post
    I'd like to direct you to my two threads.

    English: (Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread (58 pages)
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...eedback-Thread
    Japanese: 召喚士に関するフィードバックを書くスレ (25 pages)
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...82%B9%E3%83%AC
    Criticisms of your points would be A.) emerald/garuda and topaz/titan would have similar skillsets because the later egi are basically upgraded versions of them since they're replacing those spots. I think that's fine and the real question is whether additional egis can be more diverse past the tank, melee, ranged summons that smn have now and B.) I'm not sure you really addressed why Ifrit needs to be changed.

    The reason Ifrit is regarded by nearly everyone as not being as useful in PVE as Garuda is because it provides nearly zero synergy to the caster(for some reason you suggest giving it a skill that will reduce the targets physical defense? also there's no way in the world you're going to have pet abilities on a 10-30s timer) and that it's nearly impossible to keep ifrit out of danger due to constant melee ranged aoe which either results in a smn constantly burning MP to either keep sustain up on ifrit or through having to resummon it in the middle of a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmian View Post
    Criticisms of your points would be A.) emerald/garuda and topaz/titan would have similar skillsets because the later egi are basically upgraded versions of them since they're replacing those spots. I think that's fine and the real question is whether additional egis can be more diverse past the tank, melee, ranged summons that smn have now and B.) I'm not sure you really addressed why Ifrit needs to be changed.

    The reason Ifrit is regarded by nearly everyone as not being as useful in PVE as Garuda is because it provides nearly zero synergy to the caster(for some reason you suggest giving it a skill that will reduce the targets physical defense? also there's no way in the world you're going to have pet abilities on a 10-30s timer) and that it's nearly impossible to keep ifrit out of danger due to constant melee ranged aoe which either results in a smn constantly burning MP to either keep sustain up on ifrit or through having to resummon it in the middle of a fight.
    Criticism and discussion are more than welcome, but that wasn't really the point of my post. I was simply trying to get across that there are (or at least were since people don't post in the English thread anymore) people saying more than just "SUMMON SHOULD DO BIG DAMAGE."

    I welcome anyone and everyone to post in the thread I linked and get some discussion going. Considering it was mentioned at Nico Nico Choukaigi 3 that they will be revisiting the Egi in light of the fact that introduction of new Egi will require rebalancing, I can't think of a better time than now to start offering feedback.
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    Last edited by Spellbinder; 05-23-2014 at 04:20 PM.

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    No can do.


    PS3 limitations.
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    Digievolve!!!!!!
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