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  1. #11
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    Lemon8or's Avatar
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    Lemon Nate
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    1. Do not heal me over my maximum HP when I'm on Warrior and Thrill of Battle is about to expire. I know it's hard to resist the urge to top the tank off but it's overhealing, wasting your time and MP.
    2. If you know a big hit is coming and trust your Warrior tank enough to know he'll use Holmgang, let him take the hit to the face, reducing his HP to 1 then Benediction/Lustrate him back up. I just wish Holmgang stores all the healing you receive during the duration and heals you that after it ends but....
    3. You can stand close to the Paladin tank if you're getting hit with physical attacks. Good Paladins will use Cover on you to take the damage.
    4. If you see Hallowed Ground going off, it does not mean you don't need to heal me anymore. It just mean you have 10 seconds to get me and the party into a better state.

  2. #12
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    @aerol

    I have the impression, maybe I am wrong, but reading you, I have the feeling you consider tanks as the only one in a party and that everything and anything is revolving around them and only them.

    It is kind of troublesome...in a party, at least in my conception and I know not all are in agreement, every member is important not one more of the other, your ideal ways, mostly, supposes that everybody is super geared, everybody knows all and takes no damages and the only one in need of healing is only and exclusively the tank. In a *real* world, though, it doesnt really work so, as a healer since you are one as well, you know it as well.


    Maybe this is the source of the troubles ? just an hypothesis of course

    Mei
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    Last edited by MeiUshu; 05-22-2014 at 12:19 AM.

  3. #13
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    As a healer main, level a tank job and do as many different dungeons as possible.

    As a tank main, level a healer job and do as many different dungeons as possible.

    This will help you understand what the other role can and cannot do, as well as get yourself familiarized with specific cool downs, play styles, and capabilities of the other role. This will also allow you to make better decisions about the capability of the other role because you now understand the nuances of the role.
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  4. #14
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    RickmanUK's Avatar
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    Gilka Heinrich
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    As a healer main, level a tank job and do as many different dungeons as possible.

    As a tank main, level a healer job and do as many different dungeons as possible.

    This will help you understand what the other role can and cannot do, as well as get yourself familiarized with specific cool downs, play styles, and capabilities of the other role. This will also allow you to make better decisions about the capability of the other role because you now understand the nuances of the role.
    I Generally Do this in Most Games... Can't Help People/Point out what they can Improve (Generally Only with FC Members, But if people Are Willing too Learn i'll tell them in DF if they Want) If you Don't Know what they can and Can't Do. And No... This Doesn't Mean i Know Everything... Just i Try too learn what people Can do so i Know what i can Do when Teamed with them.

    I Might Be a Douche at times.. But it's only Because i Atleast Learn before i Complain...
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    Sometimes insanity is the Only option.... Sanity Isn't the Norm, It's only what's Expected.
    Insanity is the option that you can take as an Exit if you need too.

  5. #15
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    Snow Ball
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    Watch the dmg being taken by the tank before overhealing.
    If you'r tank is half decent he will dodge every avoidable dmg while maintaining the right cooldowns at the right time.

    I keep bumping into healers that just because I make a (semi) big pull end up spam healing me even though I'm barely taking dmg.
    Also I hear this is a touchy topic, but when I'm barely taking dmg and you don't have to heal your behind off, please do go into cleric stance and help us kill the mobs, most of the time they ll die before any healing is needed at all that way.

    Ooh and Scholars.
    On big-ish pulls Shadowflare is a bigger dmg mitigation than sacred soil and on smaller pulls it's still better as you don't need sacred soil on those.
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    Last edited by Snowaeth; 05-22-2014 at 04:42 AM.

  6. #16
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by fanservice View Post
    Maybe this thread shoulda've been posted on the tank forums?
    Actually this is a good place for this type of thread because the target audience is healers.

    Likewise, there should be a sibling thread in the tank forums that reads "Healers, what do you wish tanks knew about you?"
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  7. #17
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    Umbeliel's Avatar
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    Viola Cruxis
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    That Tomahawk can't out enmity an 8man Medica II and that preemptive regen ticks pull trash instantly off of me at the start of a pull.

    It would be nice if there was some sort of way to know if I was about to Holmgang or if they were about to use Benediction too, but that's not something a healer can really do without planning to be near death. ;;
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  8. #18
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    tOnni3's Avatar
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    Shinhye Heartstrings
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Naus View Post
    Honestly half the tanks don't even pick up those goblins. The good ones will, the will have me running in circles kitting them cause when I do bring them to them they ignore them.
    Pretty much this, most of them ignored adds attacking me and my pet even I placed them beside boss....
    This stress me a lot as I have to dps boss/add while surviving and keep pet alive.
    Only if they grab them, pretty sure boss die faster....
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  9. #19
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Anyone want to explain to me why tanks don't use cover half the time when we get bashed on? Long GCD? Lowers attack?
    Lowers emnity? Huge mp cost?

    On topic tho makes a lot of sense when you tanks explain what your abilities/skills actually do when it is paired up with healing.
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  10. #20
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    Sodamachine's Avatar
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    Soda Scarlet
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Anyone want to explain to me why tanks don't use cover half the time when we get bashed on? Long GCD? Lowers attack?
    Lowers emnity? Huge mp cost? .
    If it is just one enemy, its just simpler to take him off you, instead of making sure you dont get that one hit, and then take him off you.
    Same goes with 2-4 enemies. Usually a normal Flash or other AoE Emnity attacks is enough to take back Hate.

    If you for some reason have a lot of emnity on multiple targets (How you now managed to do that), then Cover is useful.
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