Tank Swaps how to do it right?

[Seif]

What about the suprana grab after chirada in phase 1?

At this point chirada is dead so I can't do the BB combo without going right next to chir&gar to combo the first 2 hits of bb combo hitting voke and then conpleting bb.

Is this enough to start running to SE area while throwing few ranged attacks in on the move?

[Seif]

I do have flash from pld but it often seems useless. Would the snake be good to grab with flash+overwhelm?
I don't understand how stacking on mt in advance helps because in front of snake there are massive attacks going on.

I usually stand right next to cadeus in a way that the tail seipes don't get me but healers wont need to focus on me with the frontal attacks.

[Synestr]

I do have flash from pld but it often seems useless. Would the snake be good to grab with flash+overwhelm?
I don't understand how stacking on mt in advance helps because in front of snake there are massive attacks going on.

I usually stand right next to cadeus in a way that the tail seipes don't get me but healers wont need to focus on me with the frontal attacks.

Correct placement before split. Stacking on tank (or moving to MT spot) ONLY happens after the "water splash" off CAD's back. That is your que to get into position, in the spot the MT was standing. Usually the MT will start to drag his snake away at that point as well so lessens the chance of a hood swipe. At that point heals should already know who they are on in terms of focus heals.

You are correct in that Flash+Overwhelm, will be enough to claim him, you could even go Flash+Overwhelm+Flash/Tomahawk, then tank like normal and enjoy the face smashing ^.^

Hope I didn't confuse and GL!

Syn

[kukurumei]

I do have flash from pld but it often seems useless. Would the snake be good to grab with flash+overwhelm?
I don't understand how stacking on mt in advance helps because in front of snake there are massive attacks going on.

I usually stand right next to cadeus in a way that the tail seipes don't get me but healers wont need to focus on me with the frontal attacks.

Flash is not useless per se. It's good as a non target aggro. Basically when you can't target fast enough. Steel cyclone works the same way only stronger.

For T1, there are 2 methods
1: Replace pulling:
MT tanks Cal#1. At split, MT runs north while the OT Starts hitting on the cal#2 and takes over MT's previous spot. Flash is useful because you are slowed down by targetting. Always save a stun(brutal swing) right after it, as it spikes your threat. Then BB combo. IF you really have a hard time picking it up fast enough Over power will usually hit both Cals, and you should be able to get Threat on the clone.

2: Distance pulling
you wait a little in the middle. Once the clone spits, you immediately Voke+tomahawk the clone. Try to do a stun (brutal swing) then run back more with more tomahawks as it allows to get into position before more BB block combos.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both methods. Method 1 gives you more stable pulls, but at the cost of a lot of incoming damage, since the tanks are basically face tanking while moving. While the method2 is very loose hate, but you gain a very large amount of travel time for little damage.

Method 2 also requires the PT to not be stupid. There are tons and tons of healers that pull threat on method 2 and blame the tank. That's just how it works for method 2. They are suppose to shroud during that part. Not a tanks fault to only have tomahawk on that part

For garuda ex. When you pull the suprana in phase2 (I'm assuming what you meant) voke+tomahawk. But it's more the MT's fault if you can't get it. He's probably wailing on suprana, preventing you from getting hate. MT should be on garuda once chirada is dead (After feather rain is usually a good time for MT to switch to garuda).

Chirada is also good to just fully BB combo her before moving.

Not a big issue now with echo. Just go in close and BB combo the sisters.

[Seif]

I'm going to try these tips now and see how it goes. It's super stressful because every time I fail everyone does and that results in everyone hating me

I know what I'm supposed to do but in a real situation anything can happen.
I just hope I learn before everyone blacklists me.

Again thanks a ton for the help.

[Synestr]

Such is the life of a tank ^.^

Just keep in mind the tips here and remember, repetition creates habit. The more you do it the better you become at it.

Cheers!

Syn

[Cap75]

I'm thinking communication must be a big missing factor in your spilt on T1. My FC is on PS4 VC when we do it and when the split is about come we just say, everyone lay off for a sec, I switch to the new snake, Overpower, then kite him across the board with Tomahawks. So long as nobody is throwing down AEO hate generators at the split there should be no issue.

[whiskeybravo]

I've never noticed the "splash" effect on Cadusceus. Interesting. At any rate, he normally splits about 66% or so health, so you can anticipate the split pretty easily. What helped me the most in grabbing split, is make sure your camera angle is set so you mainly just see Cads (normally looking towards the arena background), this helps eliminate selecting a target other than Cads. You want to select Cads asap, not a random party member. If you are doing that right, then as soon as you see the health bar drop and the new Cads enemy on the enemy list, simply hit left/right (controller) or tab target (KB+M) and immediately whack it with something. If you do an AoE move such as flash or overpower (not the best option) it will be easy to determine which Cad is yours because one will have the green dot and yours will have a red dot on the enemy list. You shouldn't use provoke at all on T1, unless you lose hate and need to get it back from a healer or dps. The split that spawns does not have pre-existing threat to copy, so you don't want to use Provoke (which is a threat copy) - you want to hit that snake hard.

As for Garuda Ex, if there aren't any melee you don't really need to provoke suprana off the MT, the main reason for doing that is so they don't get hit by a single wicked wheel (not even the infamous double wicked wheel). If there are melee, then feel free to provoke after you've built the BB combo and have it ready. Provoke>Butcher's Block>Brutal Swing, then tomahawk into position. For sister phase Berserk should always be avail, I use Berserk, grab chirada with uncombo'd butcher's block (highest enmity single attack, combo'd or not) then provoke the spiney, flash/overpower spam into position, then get back to combo'ing Chirada before dps rips it off. It is possible for tanks to swap spiney plume and suprana during twisters (again, helps melee avoid the single wicked wheel), this gets a little tricky though, just make sure you have the right targets selected or else you will voke the wrong thing and then be without provoke to correct it - which usually results in a wipe.

[Shref]

Most likely, the MT isn't aware you're taking aggro. ALL tanks should have a macro for Provoke. An example is below. Note the 1 second wait and a second provoke being used. this is to ensure you don't get caught in the animation lock of a previous ability activating. Also, make sure you follow up the provoke with something like OP or a BB .

/micon "Provoke"
/p Provoking <t> NOW
/ac "Provoke" <t>
/wait 1
/ac "Provoke" <t>

[Seif]

Gah I'm sorry to say my garuda extreme run was not better

Here's the deal: everything goes more or less smoothly until 2nd phase chirada and spiny spawn at the same time.

I grab chir with brutal swing or overwhelm and scan the area for spiny then as I voke and do a ranged attack for it I lose chirada and now I have no voke nor space to move among twisters...

It seems almost impossible I wonder if I should try to start mting this...

Every fail makes me terrified to attempt again.