We want loot from bosses, not hardened sap.

[Spoekes]

Yes to the first question and a big question mark for the other two. Was I not clear?

Equipment.

Oh man thanks for the enlightment... so what equipment should drop there then?!

Crystal Tower Gear? noone will do CT anymore.
Allagan? like above with T1-5
Make new gear? iLvL 75?

Can you answer this simple question?

[NaliaBrown]

Oh man thanks for the enlightment... so what equipment should drop there then?!

Crystal Tower Gear? noone will do CT anymore.
Allagan? like above with T1-5
Make new gear? iLvL 75?

Can you answer this simple question?

I thought this was obvious. They should drop the Darklight gear and new i70 gear that's already on the loot tables for these dungeons.

[Spoekes]

Ok I did not get that from your OP, pardon me.
Personally, I still prefer the Mats over the Gear, but that may be because I got it all.

With dropping both, there is a chance both of us can get happy.

[Umbeliel]

Ok I did not get that from your OP, pardon me.
Personally, I still prefer the Mats over the Gear, but that may be because I got it all.

With dropping both, there is a chance both of us can get happy.

Are...... You even reading what she's posting?
Are you reading what YOU'RE posting?

To clarify since you mentioned not knowing about the potion chests, there are two(? Off the top of my head) side chests in each dungeon that contain nothing but X potions, X ethers, and hi-elixirs. The point isn't to make what you want go away. It's to make what you want get out of the way of the people who don't want it. Because, even in the "shared loot table with a chance for both of us to get happy"- We have 8/19 chance to even get an equippable item(Including belts)- which will in turn be rolled on by everyone, probably for seals, where as you essentially picking up loose change makes the boss chest essentially a waste of time.

Yes, there are people who enjoy the materials. That is fine. There is no benefit to your materials cluttering up the loot table though.

[NaliaBrown]

Snip...

You. I like you.

[Myrhn]

A couple of month back...

We want crafting item to drop from dungeons and such to make gear.

Now...

We dont want crafting items drops from a dungeon we want gear.

Never gonna please the people.

[Spoekes]

I was taking me as an example for somebody who does not need the gear but has to do the same dungeons to get myth and sol and I believe that's the majority.
8/19 is just close to 50% dropchance under the assumpotion that they all have the same. Sounds fair.

I really didn't notice these potion chests there but do you really bother so much?
The game has it in every single dungeon.

[Arkine]

A couple of month back...

We want crafting item to drop from dungeons and such to make gear.

Now...

We dont want crafting items drops from a dungeon we want gear.

Never gonna please the people.

[Estellios]

It's really the worst for players that are just hitting 50. This gear is needed to be able to even enter coil and it's nowhere near as accessible as it used to be. At the very least before when you were saving Philosophy for darklight gear not only was there no iL requirement on coil, you got a bunch of gear getting your stones and you could fill in the gaps you couldn't get from dungeon drops. The new dungeons are almost only worth it for the stones because of these mats.

I took two people, a brd and a pld, that were i60 into the expert dungeons and ran through all 3 without any issue and all they had to show for it was 1/3 of the stones they needed to get a single item. only 2 pieces of gear dropped and they were for BLM, the rest was literally filtered water, cooking sherry, or voidsent blood. I mean i know RNG is a thing in any of the dungeons but at the very least you would typically have gotten something for an evening of dungeons back in 2.0.

[SummonerSenah]

The thing is that there's so many ways to get seals so that you can buy animal fat/coke/potash, etc. But we have no other way to get shikaree/hussar/fistfighter/pilgrim/magician/protector gear. Even if a lot of people just want it for vanity, the point is that the expert dungeons are the ONLY way to get these items, and that's why it sucks to get crafting mats drop all the time. I can do Fates or leves to get seals to get crafting mats if that's what I want.