We really NEED another GREED

[SirEdeonX]

I don't think it's fair for people to be able to GREED over something they cannot equip.

I know what you're thinking: "if you want something, then go as the job to NEED", and I understand that this is not a critical problem, only for alts. But in this game, where one chest drops loot for every classes, and everyone can level up all classes, i think it's something that's been overlook.

Now, a couple of MMOs already do this by disabling the GREED button if you cannot equip it, which seems like a reasonable idea. Another option would be to have a second GREED. This would also prevent fresh lvl50 players to immediatly equip end-game gear before they actually have any experience on it.

I'm just sick of seeing people get screwed over by someone that can't even use the item.

[Arkista]

I know what you're thinking: "if you want something, then go as the job to NEED",.

you already answered

[PixelPirate]

you already answered

This thread was over by the end of the very first reply. #problemsolved

[Musashidon]

the person you screwed you over was yourself, play the class or risk losing the loot.

[SirEdeonX]

the person you screwed you over was yourself, play the class or risk losing the loot.

Ok, i'll throw in the context:

We were doing a GREED party for levi ex, and our healer wanted the WHM wand, but he changed to scholar because we already had a WHM who had the wand. He really wanted the Wand and even asked for it and everyone agreed. But when the Wand dropped, someone else rolled GREED on it and won, even thought his CNJ was at lvl 0.

This situation really pissed me off.
So I ask that you consider the system I talked about, and discuss it, if it would be good or bad, or even worth the trouble, instead of just jumping to "it's your fault".

[ForteXX]

Ok, i'll throw in the context:

We were doing a GREED party for levi ex, and our healer wanted the WHM wand, but he changed to scholar because we already had a WHM who had the wand. He really wanted the Wand and even asked for it and everyone agreed. But when the Wand dropped, someone else rolled GREED on it and won, even thought his CNJ was at lvl 0.

This situation really pissed me off.
So I ask that you consider the system I talked about, and discuss it, if it would be good or bad, or even worth the trouble, instead of just jumping to "it's your fault".

Did the party report the person? Mods have said to do so when this happens.

[Huntington]

I agree with the OP in one regard.

If someone rolls Greed on something for a class that they haven't even unlocked, then no, I don't think they have any rights to the loot. If they actually wanted the loot for the class they would have made the attempt to AT LEAST go to the Guild and unlock it. If there's a blank hyphen sitting in the class's level place, then no, they should not be able to roll greed for it at all. I can for sure recount a time or two when this has happened.



A Coil Turn 1 for example when it still had weekly lockout does. SMN has Ifrit out, we're at Snake, pet aggroes, starts fight early, then that SMN dies. And before he gets raised, he returns to the beginning, then gets locked out. Once the fight is over no help to him whatsoever, he rolls greed on some Monk gear and gets it over other people who actually had a much more deserving chance of it. Did he have the class even unlocked? Nope, Pugilist was blank. I actually said something at the time as well, we should not have let him had a shot at anything at that point, and I would have blacklisted him myself.

Because he did not apologize, say he was sorry, nothing. He died, let us do all the work, then said nothing, got some gear for no work practically, then left after saying "gg". Those are the kinds of people something like this would help to avoid.

[ReiszRie]

I agree with the OP in one regard.

If someone rolls Greed on something for a class that they haven't even unlocked, then no, I don't think they have any rights to the loot. If they actually wanted the loot for the class they would have made the attempt to AT LEAST go to the Guild and unlock it. If there's a blank hyphen sitting in the class's level place, then no, they should not be able to roll greed for it at all. I can for sure recount a time or two when this has happened.



A Coil Turn 1 for example when it still had weekly lockout does. SMN has Ifrit out, we're at Snake, pet aggroes, starts fight early, then that SMN dies. And before he gets raised, he returns to the beginning, then gets locked out. Once the fight is over no help to him whatsoever, he rolls greed on some Monk gear and gets it over other people who actually had a much more deserving chance of it. Did he have the class even unlocked? Nope, Pugilist was blank. I actually said something at the time as well, we should not have let him had a shot at anything at that point, and I would have blacklisted him myself.

Because he did not apologize, say he was sorry, nothing. He died, let us do all the work, then said nothing, got some gear for no work practically, then left after saying "gg". Those are the kinds of people something like this would help to avoid.

So a player with all classes at 50 would benefit from this system regardless of whether he/she needs or even wants the gear to begin with.

In fact it doesn't seem to solve anything at all, if you had a PT with players that are all 50, the same could've happened and the player who got the loot, might even simply discard the loot.

Ultimately, the issue lies with the players, not the system and I am against any sort of system that gives a player a loot advantage simply because they leveled em all to 50

[Musashidon]

Ok, i'll throw in the context:

We were doing a GREED party for levi ex, and our healer wanted the WHM wand, but he changed to scholar because we already had a WHM who had the wand. He really wanted the Wand and even asked for it and everyone agreed. But when the Wand dropped, someone else rolled GREED on it and won, even thought his CNJ was at lvl 0.

This situation really pissed me off.
So I ask that you consider the system I talked about, and discuss it, if it would be good or bad, or even worth the trouble, instead of just jumping to "it's your fault".

this doesn't make sense, if you made a greed party that's saying anyone can greed. (assuming pf) now if you want to get technical if everyone agreed to let the person have the loot but then lied you can report them but it has nothing to do with them not having a lvl 50 whm it's about them saying they would either pass or greed (And not need) vs anyone can loot greed/need.

[SirEdeonX]

this doesn't make sense, if you made a greed party that's saying anyone can greed. (assuming pf) .

Not quite. A greed party where ppl can ONLY greed and ONLY for the items they call for. These parties are great for gearing alts exactly because you can go with your main, call out the item you want, and greed for it.