

Tell me more about how high AoE numbers matters on relevant content and not only lolspeedrunning w/overgeared characters.
T4 was great in that way in 2.0-2.1, but now there is litterally no reason to have a BLM in your static. Sadly.
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BLM and WHM suffer most from high-movement fights because they are more "turret" style jobs (everything has a cast time so they don't allow casting on the go). The problem is that SE is drifting more and more towards high-mobility fights (as a way to inflate difficulty), but it's rendering these turret-type jobs more and more gimped.


You're also noticing a smaller weapon damage increase across the tier.
Simply put, Monk I95 = 47 WD. I115 = 53 WD. Difference = 6 WD or 12.7% MORE.
BLM I95 = 71 WD. I115 = 77 WD. Difference = 6 WD but 8.45% more, which is magically LESS than the boost that non-caster dps get.
Though that does seem to be the primary outlier. Str/Dex/Int all end up in the same ballpark, I believe, somewhere in the mid 500s. But WD, which is the single largest contributor to anyone dps, goes up by a smaller % value for casters.
Now if the I115 caster weapons came with 80 WD, then things might look a little better.
By that logic, bard should have had the biggest increase 42 -> 48 or 14.28% and they're non-caster dps. Only reason BLM's number is low is if the fight involves lots of movements. T8 is an example of where BLMs can catch up if they don't take a lot of duties.


That is so wrong in so many ways. Been in a lot of Titan Ex/HM and even Ultima or any other fight that have a lot of movement and blm will be top or close to top dps against even geared people. T8 is the prime example of blm needing a buff because even if they dont move in the whole fight they fall behind the people that are moving a lot during the fight.
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On-topic, I'm also looking forward to when it will happen.
Off-topic, threads like this ALWAYS, WITHOUT FAIL get into debates on DPS numbers. Like telephone....it just makes me laugh now

can WHM's get a buff too?
i mean, i hate how a scholar has free movement whilst the pet heals but ive gotta be the turret.
BLM will get buffed but by the sounds of it it'll only be within specific fights. nothing outside, so it wont be a major buffing, just allows more damage output registered in fights.
however if they buff blm globally it will cause massive unbalance in other areas. I can understand why it needs a buff in some areas but this needs to be tackled very carefully. I mean seriously if they got buffed brayflox hm will just became even more lol with a blm.


It was mentioned that BLMs suffer in new coil because of all the movement but...
Where is all this movement? Turn 6, you basically just move occasionally for devour, maybe you have to move for vines (if you are picked). Turn 7 you basically just move for shriek, maybe if you get cursed voice you move but, as a dps you have the smallest chance of getting it. Turn 8 you only move if you are doing a tower or a mine, otherwise you just stand there and nuke. Turn 9 has movement, so I can grant you that one but, it's not nearly as much as some of the ex primals.
Don't get me wrong though, I do think BLM suffer from heavy movement fights. Titan Ex is probably the worst offender. I just don't see the new coil as being the worst of their troubles.
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