End Game

[Cessna]

In response to your question when is a static required, that depends how valuable your server views progression.

On my server Balmung you probably won't need a static until turn 6-9 as of this post 6/3/2014. Turn 5 is boarder line as of now, some people CAN pug this successfully. There are SOME turn 6 pugs that are successful but more than likely your not getting into one.

My advice is to avoid the statics until you can get somewhere really good like turn 6+ that way you get freedom to do what you want when you win and not have to make commitments you'd rather not on honestly puggable content.

[ToukonEvia]

UPDATE

Doing well, guys. iLvl 78 now and I've got my Curtana/Shield. Currently I have hands/feet/belt valor and weathered choker. I'm saving my soldiery tomes for noct legs (as every single forum thread I've read advises) and I'm going for Valor body/head. Both of which I'll have this week/next Monday.

But where do I go with soldiery tomes after I get the legs? I've read a lot of people say wait for allagan in coil, and spend soldiery tomes on books for weapon. Others have said the drop rate is so bad that it is worth spending soldiery on armour then weapon. (Bear in mind I've not done a lot of research into anything after Zenith/Atma).

You guys haven't steered me wrong yet so I wondered what your input was.

[Synestr]

Congrats on your new iLVL. In terms of soldiery spending I would recommend you go Body, legs, then ring. The choker is a solid buy. After you get the three pieces I mentioned you could put some soldiery to the shield, that is a preference though. Then fill in gaps. It is better to fill left side first, since they have the greatest stat weight. STR/VIT/PARRY etc are gained much more on left than on right. I usually do accessories last. So far I have body and shield, next is legs. I have been working on both pld and blm so my spending is a bit wonky. Until you get the soldiery for that stuff, get the coil drops if you can. They will serve you well till they get replaced. I would use your Myth for the accessories and get the full i90 kit there filling in spots where allagan wasn't acquired.

For zenith you will need Myth to get the Mists from Rowena, then trade your relic with those to the forge at Gerolts. As for the soldiery weapon, I would not focus on tokens just yet as you haven't entered 2nd coil where the tomestone drops for it in T7 i believe. Get zenith and then if you can bear it, hunt for atma or allagan blade from T5.

All in all you are on the right path, and have entered into a whole new game lol. Keep the updates coming, they are fun.

((I am in no way a professional PLD, though it is my main, if any information here is incorrect or not the norm, please let me know. I am constantly learning as well and appreciate all and any feedback))

Syn

[JonBigwood]

Hi, it's the mythology tomes the ones that are used for the books, so you don't need to save soldiery tomes. You will need 900 myth tomes to upgrade your Curtana and Holy Shield to Zenith if you haven't already done it. Edit: I see you talk about saving soldieries to buy the weapon. I would center on the gear first since the weapon needs a lot of soldiery tomes and then a drop of second coil to upgrade it's not likely you'll get soon.

I would go buying with soldiery tomes the gear items to substitute your pieces that have the lowest ilvl, looking also the stats so that you keep enough accuracy (for Coil). Soldiery accesories are quite good too and some can compensate the stats the left side soldiery pieces don't have. The myth accesories, except ring, are not that great.

Depending on how much you play, it will take time to farm the Atmas so you'll be getting 450 soldiery tomes per week, it's not difficult to cap the soldiery tomes. You can go upgrading gear with soldiery. At the same time you'll be obtaining mythology tomes. Daily roulettes and Crystal Tower give many myth tomes. I would upgrade the Curtana and Holy Shield to Zenith soon so you can start to farm Atmas.

While you farm atmas I would cap the soldiery tomes and also do the roulettes so you obtain mythology tomes, not just farm fates all your available time. Other people may think different and prefer to have the atmas ASAP. You can't hold more than 2000 tomes so you probably can spend your myth tomes in gear too, and when you think you are near to finish the atma you can start to save myth tomes so that you can buy your first book soon. I wouldn't worry too much, since the difference would only be obtaining the animus upgrade a few days before.

There are also the allagan drops from Coil that are ilvl90. If you think you'll obtain soon an allagan item, you might not buy the valor one and buy another valor item. Some drops are from T1 or T2, which are easier, others from T4 or T5 which are more difficult.

There are also the CT drops that are ilvl80, that can be useful temporarily until you get something better.

There are many options now that there is no weekly cap on Coil or CT (so allagan and CT gear are easier to obtain), and there are the soldiery tomes to buy gear and not only the myth tomes. Once you start with the books, you'll use all your myth tomes for the books and stop buying gear with them.

Edit: Keep in mind that eventually you might level your other tank job, so CT and Allagan gear will serve for the other class too. Also you may have a retainer and need gear for him that you will not be able to use at the same time. Retainers don't have jobs, only classes, so Valor is not an option for the retainer. It is likely you will also eventually level other classes/jobs to 50 and need the gear (this regarding drops, I wouldn't roll pass CT or Coil gear, or high level dungeons gear you don't have equivalent. You may level that job later. Unless you are fully sure you'll never level that job.)

[Killabye]

I'd say quit buying gear and farm dungeons. If they get easy do quests and open harder dungeons. That's the cheapest way to get gear. Sorry dint read your last post. Pali if you plan on getting in coil get you acc up, however is easiest. That way you keep aggro up and since heals should be strong they can help you farm coil for gear

[ToukonEvia]

So I'm currently iLvl 86 now - mostly Valor stuff, weathered noct neck, couple of i70/80 drops. I've got 8/12 Atma's now and I'm capping Soldiery every week.

I'm aiming to have Atma's done before the weekend (I genuinely believe me and a guildmate have found a form of pattern), and weathered noct lorica. I don't feel it's worthwhile spending myth tomes on gear now because I'll get upgrades from soldiery/t1-4, and the myth tomes are more beneficial to be used on the next weapon upgrade (12500 tomes?!?! MENTAL!).

How do you guys work out weathered noct vs allagan vs noct? I know that acc makes a difference but I think I'm at the cap now for 1-4 and I'll be at the cap for 5+ too by this weekend so I'm happy with that. Most people say to farm soldiery, then upgrade to allagan as it drops, then upgrade weathered noct to noct as the items to do it drop. How do you lot manage that? Is there an ideal combination or would you generally say full noct is better than allagan?

Cheers

[ToukonEvia]

From what I can see, High Allagan and full Noct are exactly the same, except Allagan = crit strike and Noct = acc. Am I right with that?

[JonBigwood]

Hi! Congrats on your upgrades. It depends on your speed getting atmas, and later books and completing them. While you do the books, the soldiery tomes will keep coming if you cap your 450 soldiery tomes each week (good idea, I think.) In my case I will have all the soldiery gear for the PLD and won't have finished the animus upgrade yet.

You might share the pattern you think the atmas follow :-)

Weathered noct are higher ilvl than Allagan, so I would prefer them. What stats the left side gear may lack you can find in some of the accesories probably.

When you get the Second Coil drop to upgrade a weathered noct would be the moment to decide what gear item is the one you need to upgrade, since it will depend on what gear you have at that moment and what stat is the most needed for you. High Allagan will depend on your luck with drops, and with the weekly cap it will be difficult to get drops. Unlike Allagan that you can farm now without the weekly limit.

The Novus upgrade will probably mean you'll do the expert roulette for the Alexandrite daily, so more soldiery tomes will be there for you to spend.

About High Allagan and Noct, I think both secondary stats may change, I have looked just at one. By the Novus upgrade system, it seems official that all gear of the same ilvl has the main stats the same, while the secondary stats may change.

[ToukonEvia]

Yeah so I'm close to having W Noct Lorica now, still doing dailies and prioritizing Soldiery tomes - I'm get back on smashing through myth tomes when I finish atma but I don't have much time this week (damn RL...).

I've still not been in coil - I really need to make a conscious effort to that sorted but again, I just want to have Atma finished first.

Regarding Atma, check out this thread I've started. It's probably better to keep detailed Atma discussion there to get other people involved;

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ma-Theorycraft

[Raffounz]

Hi, congrats on your progress If u have question / advice just ask, main PLD here ILV97 actually in t7 ^^