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    I'm not afraid to say I've done more dmg than BLMs before. Without asking for ballad, and keeping the tank alive. It's not that hard, 3 Holys gives the tank about 7-10seconds of peace because of stuns. It helps the dungeons go SOOOO much more faster too. Plus, by the time we're at the next mob group I'm full MP again >.>
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    Last edited by JonFarron; 05-24-2014 at 04:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrosis View Post
    Yelled at if we DO damage. Yelled at if we DONT.

    /agree .. My thoughts exactly my friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by ariaandkia View Post
    Lancer uses piercing resistance debuff on enemy with 3 bards. The bards now have higher damage.
    That is an instance of a noteworthy increase to party DPS but a random stun doesn't nearly have the same affect on party DPS as a debuff.

    You open burn phases with debuffs and cooldowns (this is where you set up your party, like you mentioned). Then you burn. And in that instance, if a WHM were to theoretically burn for some reason, they should spam stone 2 instead of holy because over a reasonable period of time, you get more out of it. If you start worrying about helping the tank you suddenly shift to a healer mind frame again. You can't do two things optimally at once. If you want to support the tank and do some decent dps, holy. If the tank and party will be fine, and you can burn, use stone 2 for optimal dps.
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    *only for a single target. For multiple targets Holy is much faster.
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Im going to speed up the run. how do i do that? Holy? yes holy. I don't run out of mana nor rely on a bard EVER in a dungeon for ballad. And you know what? i get the commendations for speeding up the run while keeping the party alive/not letting the tank get that "oh crap im about to die" feeling.

    U mad bro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    Im going to speed up the run. how do i do that? Holy? yes holy. I don't run out of mana nor rely on a bard EVER in a dungeon for ballad. And you know what? i get the commendations for speeding up the run while keeping the party alive/not letting the tank get that "oh crap im about to die" feeling.

    U mad bro?
    We have benediction, another reason to keep spamming holy
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    So OP has basically come in mid-thread and gone "oh, my bad, didn't know"...so what's still going on here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    So OP has basically come in mid-thread and gone "oh, my bad, didn't know"...so what's still going on here?
    +1 that's right alis, tell them all ^-^
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    Last edited by AngelicSence; 05-26-2014 at 05:52 PM.

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    its because its the best looking attack, i love to spam holy xD, ofcourse i know my mana, i know how to use it, im not spamming like crazy
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    Because using holy on two mobs is a big dps increase then stone 2 spam. Faster the mobs die = less room for mistakes. Also I use the rotation Aero 2 > Aero > Swiftcast > Holy > fluid aura > Stone 2 spam in a single target fight as it gives the maximum.
    (I use aero in this case because its an instant cast spell, so I can fight in swift cast's animation while my moves are on GCD).

    As a WHM, even when holy spamming, I don't need mages ballad. And if I ever need it? So what. The 20% reduction on your damage is offset by the fact that holy does tonnes of damage. This is me being "elitist" against other classes - its a fact - holy is a 200 potency AoE, which means it deals huge amounts of damage to mobs.

    It seems you just do not like supporting the group? If so then change to BLM if you still want to be ranged or play LNC if you still want awesome weapons. While they have some support, it isn't nearly as big as the support BRD/SMN gives.
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