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    Holding threat in this game as gld/pld B L O W S until you hit 40 and get the shield oath stance and even then it's not very fun. Once you get your 3rd combo move try tab targeting between the multiple mobs and split your combo's where they're needed. For whatever reason SE refuses to address the threat issues for lower level tanks and then wonder why no one levels one. once you're 50, with a bit of gear it gets ALOT better. You basically just have to suffer through it and keep your gear maxed out.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWindHD View Post
    Holding threat in this game as gld/pld B L O W S until you hit 40 and get the shield oath stance and even then it's not very fun. Once you get your 3rd combo move try tab targeting between the multiple mobs and split your combo's where they're needed. For whatever reason SE refuses to address the threat issues for lower level tanks and then wonder why no one levels one. once you're 50, with a bit of gear it gets ALOT better. You basically just have to suffer through it and keep your gear maxed out.
    Yah with Duty Roulette filling low level dungeons with level synced Level 50s it can be difficult to hold threat sometimes for sure.
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    "i just noticed the New player below this" Sorry

    Anyway, "Marking" What i have been doing is if there are 3-4 mobs on me I mark one as a primary so i can con through the others to maintain "threat". Is there a science to this?

    I just want to get this right!!! Some players are just down right brutal and want to hang my mother for my tanking skills....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defenlok View Post
    I just want to get this right!!! Some players are just down right brutal and want to hang my mother for my tanking skills....
    Tanking is the most stressful job... at the same time the easiest.

    Tell them your new. If they leave, just leave also and DF it again. You have a VIP pass for a reason. And visit the tanking forums on guides on how to do AoE threat rotations.
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    Ecks Grimoirath
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWindHD View Post
    Holding threat in this game as gld/pld B L O W S until you hit 40 and get the shield oath stance and even then it's not very fun. Once you get your 3rd combo move try tab targeting between the multiple mobs and split your combo's where they're needed. For whatever reason SE refuses to address the threat issues for lower level tanks and then wonder why no one levels one. once you're 50, with a bit of gear it gets ALOT better. You basically just have to suffer through it and keep your gear maxed out.
    This is mostly for the OP, but I quote you because I feel your initial sentence is not correct.

    Holding hate is actually pretty easy, even at the lower levels (it's pretty much the same thing though). The trick is using your skills in combination with your available targets while dispensing some flashes when needed. Spread out your threat increasing attacks to your secondary or third/fourth mobs instead of just focusing on your primary target. This seems to be a hard thing for a lot of inexperienced tanks to understand and get right. I've seen level 50 i80-i90 Paladins who never learned these simple mechanics, and what happens is if you're in a group that does aoe damage (or one dps that doesn't seem to want to attack the same target as everybody else) then your dps pulls aggro from you and makes things generally more difficult than they need to be. A good healer and at least 1 good dps can offset a poor tank's lack of aggro management if they can notice and respond accordingly to what's happening. This is something I've had to do many times when I've hopped on my Whm to do Low level and High level Duty Roulettes, even back when I was leveling my Pug/Mnk and Lnc/Drg concurrently I experienced this.

    Maybe I was lucky but I learned how to tank well by watching the good tanks I leveled up with on my first class/job, Acn/Smn, and remembered what they did. Now, I haven't leveled my Gld or Mrd up very far but on either when I had run dungeons on them the players I had in my parties seemed to be amazed at how well I held aggro.

    Yeah, it's extremely different than how just about any other MMORPG works it's tanks (which tends to be: TAUNTFLASHPROVOKE, dps, [or toss in some self cures depending on the game] rinse & repeat). But after coming to understand it and how the combo skills work, it's actually not too bad. Just takes a little getting used to at first.
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    Last edited by Ecks007; 05-20-2014 at 05:37 AM.