Do you think the devs intended multi-flare blm?

[Rufalus]

Just wondering what people think about the outbreak of black mages across eorzea using flare multiple times in quick succession.

I wonder if the developers had this kind of rotation in mind; it does such huge damage compared to other dps roles that it has pushed the popularity of BLM far above everything else, at least on my data center I expect to see at least one BLM in all high level dungeons 95% of the time.

Beyond the multi-target damage being greatly overpowered compared to all other dps roles, it also draws such huge enmity which rivals tanks, at least paladin anyway. I was just in a Halatali run on my paladin where I used flash twice on a mob, followed by a basic combo, followed by flash twice more. Immediately after the 4th flash, the enemies ran to the black mage.

I didn't think it was even possible that they could do more enmity than me while flashing; I was already forced to spam flash more than normal and it still was not enough. Yes I was in shield oath and with i96 gear level. Keeping enmity was never a problem before the mass outbreak of i95+ blm spamming flare we have now. It's changed the game.

[Musashidon]

it's because you combo'd if you have a blm that is gonna spam flare you gotta spam flash>flare at least for me i have never lost to a blm who flares.

now also you can only do 2 flares (at full power) in a row after that you are doing ice flares which are pathetic in damage i was doing some sr's and had a blm do 5 flares, 2 full power aka fire 3 flare convert swift cast flare then transpose flare blizard flare transpose flare. which the last 3 did 1/3rd the damage of 1 of the full power ones, while the monsters still died fast it would have been easier to just double flare fire 2 them.

[Akujin]

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I tear hate off tanks all the time with my flares lol

And actually you can do 3 at full power, boosted further with Raging Strikes. The timer on Raging is just long enough for 3 flares actually.

Raging>Swift+Flare>Convert>Flare>Pop Mega Ether>Flare>Raging ends. Couple it with Foe and it's quite a spectacular sight. Only thing that backfires is if someone else in the party is attacking the targeted mob you're on and kills it before your flare finishes casting.

- Also, to everyone who is following the thread and rolling their eyes at BLMs who are requesting some sort of boost to themselves in light of the most recent interview with Yoshi after reading this. Consider this.

The Flare rotations mentioned here require being stationary completely, you move at anytime during Flare (our longest cast) it interrupts, spoiling the potential output right away. So movement is still our Achilee's Heel. The only rotation that does not require being still the entire time, is if transpose is being used and you're waiting for that mp tick to come through before starting the next flare rotation. In which you have all of 1-2 seconds to re-position. But it's unreliable as an actual method because it's too easy to miss the mp tick with other in game mechanics going on.

[Urielparadox]

You should be using hq mega/hq x-pot of int with that instead of x ether for higher damage(multi target scenario at least).

[Akujin]

You should be using hq mega/hq x-pot of int with that instead of x ether for higher damage(multi target scenario at least).

Negative. I've tested that, the X Int will put maybe 2-300 extra damage per hit, a little more on a crit, but prevents me from pulling out that third flare because of the mp issue. A third flare on AF3 w/Raging is far better than the boost from the higher int.

[Urielparadox]

Negative. I've tested that, the X Int will put maybe 2-300 extra damage per hit, a little more on a crit, but prevents me from pulling out that third flare because of the mp issue. A third flare on AF3 w/Raging is far better than the boost from the higher int.

In braflox/haltial(I use both depending on mob group) the int potion nocks a whole cast off of MY(my situation though not yours) the rotation so I guess just take your pic I can either do a full rotation double flair and kill them all or I can do a rotation and a triple flair to kill them all. a dif of like 3 seconds not that big, however I feel like i'm wasting a cast when that final flair with an ether is really only being used for like half the damage.

[Zakalwe]

I tear hate off tanks all the time with my flares lol

And actually you can do 3 at full power, boosted further with Raging Strikes. The timer on Raging is just long enough for 3 flares actually.

Raging>Swift+Flare>Convert>Flare>Pop Mega Ether>Flare>Raging ends. Couple it with Foe and it's quite a spectacular sight.

Usually when BLMs pull hate off of me it's because of some nice crits in a double or triple flare combined with their failure to use QS. Would that come in at the beginning of the rotation or at some other point?

[Gormogon]

Usually when BLMs pull hate off of me it's because of some nice crits in a double or triple flare combined with their failure to use QS. Would that come in at the beginning of the rotation or at some other point?

Quelling comes before Raging Strikes

So it's usually always

QS > RS > Flare > Flare > QS ends > Flare > RS ends

[Zakalwe]

Quelling comes before Raging Strikes

So it's usually always

QS > RS > Flare > Flare > QS ends > Flare > RS ends

Thx. I don't BLM and was wondering.

[Rhas]

it's because you combo'd if you have a blm that is gonna spam flare you gotta spam flash>flare at least for me i have never lost to a blm who flares.

now also you can only do 2 flares (at full power) in a row after that you are doing ice flares which are pathetic in damage i was doing some sr's and had a blm do 5 flares, 2 full power aka fire 3 flare convert swift cast flare then transpose flare blizard flare transpose flare. which the last 3 did 1/3rd the damage of 1 of the full power ones, while the monsters still died fast it would have been easier to just double flare fire 2 them.

Or just maybe try... flare (regular fast cast from being in rotation), (save a fire 3 proc) convert - swiftcast - flare - transpose, wait for a tick or two of mana and use the fire 3 proc and try to fast cast your 3rd flare. Then pop your best ether and go right into bliz 3.