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    SirHideo's Avatar
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    H'ideo Z'
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    Typhon
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Second Coil Turn 7 off tank issue

    Wonder if anyone has this issue or only me.

    Before first wave of Lamia I have my Rage of Halone chain ready and wait for pop. Once I initiate the hate on first one at 12:00 with RoH, she just goes to healers and comes back to me. I am quite confidence to say that RoH is landed in less than 1 second after first one pop. I am well prepared for its pop every time....

    I don't know why this happen, then I try to use shield lob to initiate hate with some distance to see if there's any difference. Once the shield lob landed I charge in and hey, the Lamia stays where she is.

    I am thinking that there is a bug on the first Lamia which requires some distance and time to let her judge who the top hate guy is, as RoH need to be used in close range, while its hate is no doubt larger than shield lob with shield oath up..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RtDdyChs04 <-- exactly same as this video at 1:30 but I am not the ST so don't quote me on that.
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    Last edited by SirHideo; 05-29-2014 at 04:10 AM.

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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Tank in the video had Whispering Dawn put on him seconds before the spawn. That and Regen/Medica 2 are the reason that happens
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Try using Savage Blade instead, you don't have the animation time to content with like with RoH.
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    H'ideo Z'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Try using Savage Blade instead, you don't have the animation time to content with like with RoH.
    Hmm... this could be the reason, cos I just watched another video the warrior can hold the first one with skull sunder where the 2nd one goes to centre with butcher block.. will try that thank you very much.
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    Last edited by SirHideo; 05-29-2014 at 04:27 AM.

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    Pots_Talos's Avatar
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    Pots Talos
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    I never grab threat with RoH because of how long the animation is, Savage Blade is always enough and very fast.
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    Dovie’andi se tovya sagain

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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Healers should also not cast AoE heals (or have AoE regens up) when the adds pop, so make sure that's not the case.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Healers should also not cast AoE heals (or have AoE regens up) when the adds pop, so make sure that's not the case.
    This is the main thing, because there's a second or two before the mob shows up where you can still generate enmity on it, ie healers.
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    Kin Brb
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Like everyone else said, the RoH animation is pretty slow and it doesn't seem to count the hit until the end of the animation. You can try using Savage Blade first, or Flash for immediate threat and then follow up with RoH.
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
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    Pretty much no reason for any AoE healing at that phase or indeed 90% of the fight. Maybe stick Medica II up during ranger adds phase since they just shoot whoever but other than that it's unnecessary.
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    Saerwen Celeste
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    Sargatanas
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    I had this problem in T4 as OT moooonths ago. Had a RoH combo ready for an add, smacked him with it but it had already chosen a target (usually a healer) and insisted on completing that move before recognizing that i had used RoH! If you can click the mob in the enemy list before it appears on the screen and use your RoH it should register as threat gained BEFORE it appears on the screen, that way it won't chase down someone else. This is a silly way to get around it but it did work for me so thought I would share lol
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