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    Is there any way to disable action queue outside of macro'ing everything?

    On certain classes, it is screwing things up due to when certain things such as buffs appear.

    I'd put all my skills on macros but I have enough difficulties with slots and macro numbers as it is.
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    The healer of love and justice! (Or the mad/insane/evil/berserk healer depending on who you talk to).
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    Maybe I'm showing my ignorance here, but why on earth would you want to disable that? As a WHM main I'm constantly queueing up my next spell as the current one is finishing. And when dpsing (as whm or regular dps), not using the action queue is a big dps loss. That's why most people don't recommend using macros at all for those sorts of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd View Post
    Maybe I'm showing my ignorance here, but why on earth would you want to disable that? As a WHM main I'm constantly queueing up my next spell as the current one is finishing. And when dpsing (as whm or regular dps), not using the action queue is a big dps loss. That's why most people don't recommend using macros at all for those sorts of things.
    For certain classes, I'm actually losing DPS because of the queue due to uncertain proc chances. Again, certain classes, obviously I wouldn't want to disable it on everything.
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    The healer of love and justice! (Or the mad/insane/evil/berserk healer depending on who you talk to).
    I've played healers for so long that I can heal in my sleep literally (People have seen me do it).
    I like to do a bit of everything, but my preference is healing+support (until /that/ happens). FF14 title: Macro Queen

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    ....have I just been playing since PC-Beta without one of the key features or is this just a console thing? O.o I always have to press the key I want and when I want it but no DPS loss since very few attacks can be done at the same time anyway. Seriously not ever come across this but intigued to find out how useful it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shori View Post
    ....have I just been playing since PC-Beta without one of the key features or is this just a console thing? O.o I always have to press the key I want and when I want it but no DPS loss since very few attacks can be done at the same time anyway. Seriously not ever come across this but intigued to find out how useful it is.
    the queue they are speaking of is not console specific and works in this way
    you start to cast 2.5 sec spell > you hit another spell at 2.0 > when the cast is over at 2.5 you start to cast "queued" action
    if you go with macros it goes like this:
    you start to cast 2.5 sec spell > you hit another spell at 2.0 > game throws an error that you can not use ability while casting
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    Quote Originally Posted by ariaandkia View Post
    For certain classes, I'm actually losing DPS because of the queue due to uncertain proc chances. Again, certain classes, obviously I wouldn't want to disable it on everything.
    Are you talking about BLM? Cause I'm pretty sure it's even more of a DPS loss to stop your Fire 1 cast to use that Fire 3 proc. Just keep on casting that Fire 1 and use Fire 3 after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geobryn View Post
    the queue they are speaking of is not console specific and works in this way
    you start to cast 2.5 sec spell > you hit another spell at 2.0 > when the cast is over at 2.5 you start to cast "queued" action
    if you go with macros it goes like this:
    you start to cast 2.5 sec spell > you hit another spell at 2.0 > game throws an error that you can not use ability while casting
    Ah! So just hitting the button early then For a sec I thought this was talking about a queue similar to The Sims lol!
    In that case yeah the only time i'd interupt is if I needed to move out of the way of something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    Are you talking about BLM? Cause I'm pretty sure it's even more of a DPS loss to stop your Fire 1 cast to use that Fire 3 proc. Just keep on casting that Fire 1 and use Fire 3 after.
    And yes, BLM is the biggest isue. It isn't just Fire 3 proc, it is also thundercloud proc. And that is exactly my point. I'd lose DPS if I had to stop the cast (I don't stop the cast). In addition, with the thundercloud proc, I can't just stop it. Since I usually use thunder on smaller adds to just add a bit of damage on them and increase my proc chances since usually thunder 3 is a waste of time on them. And it is a complete waste of a proc to use thunder on the proc over thunder 3 since it drops my DPS if I use thundercloud to cast thunder instead of thunder 3.

    Essentially this is usually what happens. I use start casting and then I go to use thunder just to have it on something, right before the cast finishes, thundercloud procs and then I cast proc bonus'ed thunder with no ability to change to thunder 3.

    As for interrupting, funny thing is usually when I do want to interrupt (like I realize my MP is off for the double flare due to an unexpected mage's ballad or casting Medica 2 and then having the debuffed/sac player walk into your casting area), trying to cancel my spell fails, lol. I mean, I've tried to cancel a cast early on before by moving. Spell didn't interrupt. This isn't the most common thing, but it does happen from time to time.
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    Last edited by ariaandkia; 05-20-2014 at 10:25 PM.
    The healer of love and justice! (Or the mad/insane/evil/berserk healer depending on who you talk to).
    I've played healers for so long that I can heal in my sleep literally (People have seen me do it).
    I like to do a bit of everything, but my preference is healing+support (until /that/ happens). FF14 title: Macro Queen

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    Don't stop casting, use it at next GCD. It is not a DPS "loss".
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