this is not a fansite...

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Pretty much thanks AJ (sorry name hard to type.)

that pretty much what I'm trying to say.

instead of posting "i dislike this idea and here is why I dislike your idea"

post " I don't really feel this will work in this game, so how about we do this like this?" And something on topic

Going to a market wards post and your only idea is to make them an auction house. Its in my eyes derailing. Even more so the thread isn't about making an AH but to have market wards be less of an messy laggy ey sore.

Also aj a good % of ppl are also from ffxivzam. Which is even sadder as SE is in ties with that site.

[ShinChuck]

instead of posting "i dislike this idea and here is why I dislike your idea"

post " I don't really feel this will work in this game, so how about we do this like this?" And something on topic

In this case, in the topic you've been pointing to, trinta *did* offer alternatives, which is why I'm not sure what your point with all of this is. Intended or not, it just comes off like you're angry that some disagree with you.

Believe you me, a LOT of people disagree with me. But I don't take it personally, and welcome debate.

[Kiroh]

Going to a market wards post and your only idea is to make them an auction house. Its in my eyes derailing. Even more so the thread isn't about making an AH but to have market wards be less of an messy laggy ey sore.

Well actually an AH would be a very simple and convenient way to make sure the market wards weren't a laggy mess, because with an AH the market wards would be unnecessary, and ultimately removed from the game. They can't be a laggy mess if they don't exist, and an AH is a perfectly viable (if not, preferable) alternative as they're much more convenient for both buyers and sellers.

But I digress...

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Well actually an AH would be a very simple and convenient way to make sure the market wards weren't a laggy mess, because with an AH the market wards would be unnecessary, and ultimately removed from the game. They can't be a laggy mess if they don't exist, and an AH is a perfectly viable (if not, preferable) alternative as they are extremely convenient for both buyers and sellers.

But I digress...

Actually AH's will not make Market wards useless. In every mmo I've played with an Auction house, they all have posting limits. Like you can only post x amount of items. Market wards are just a place for those to sell stuff in bazaars. If you ever played ffxi you will see why they are a good idea. And were infact added. Even with an AH in ffxi, hundreds of players had personal stalls set up 24/7 cluttering jeuno and the outskirt areas. This caused unneeded lag in the game. Instead of running your game 24/7 the wards and retainer system was put in place. SE just needs to clean them up.

[ShinChuck]

Even with an AH in ffxi, hundreds of players had personal stalls set up 24/7 cluttering jeuno and the outskirt areas. This caused unneeded lag in the game.

But that was due to certain items being bazaar-only. If they COULD have sold via AH, they would have. XIV doesn't have that classification of items, meaning everything could be sold via AH.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

But that was due to certain items being bazaar-only. If they COULD have sold via AH, they would have. XIV doesn't have that classification of items, meaning everything could be sold via AH.

Not really. There were alot of specialized stalls like for food, or certain level range of gear. I played ffxi till this month. I spent 80% of my time running around checking bazaars in jeuno while I waited for a party. Not everyone just sold non ah-able items. Everyone sold different stuff. Like candies during holloween event. Or fireworks for summer. Also goldfish. I've seen ppl sell gear in jeuno. Like stuff you can buy on AH. FFxi AH had a 7ish item limit. So ppl sold stuff in their bazaar and on the AH.

[ShinChuck]

Not really. There were alot of specialized stalls like for food, or certain level range of gear. I played ffxi till this month. I spent 80% of my time running around checking bazaars in jeuno while I waited for a party. Not everyone just sold non ah-able items. Everyone sold different stuff. Like candies during holloween event. Or fireworks for summer. Also goldfish. I've seen ppl sell gear in jeuno. Like stuff you can buy on AH. FFxi AH had a 7ish item limit. So ppl sold stuff in their bazaar and on the AH.

Sure, you'd find the occasional deal, but most bazaar stuff was stuff limited to bazaars, because people could sell things faster and quicker on an AH. Most of what people sold in Ru Lude Mart was stuff that could ONLY be sold via bazaars or was overflow. Like you said, AH had a 7 item limit - so remove that limit, like, say, WoW does, as well as get rid of bazaar-only items, and the amount of people bazaaring in Jeuno would drop, drastically.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

ostia go read the topic, but long story short my idea was to better organize the retainers in the market wards vs the cluttered mess they are. I proposed an idea and all ppl did was say they disagreed with it. No one gave a better idea. That was on topic.