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  1. #11
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    Pandora Vainglory
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Um, no thanks. Best part about progression content is the unknown. Stop being lazy and load up XIV Model Viewer after the patch or wait for xivpro to mine it for you if you wanna know that badly.
    Because I play video games to be active, and not lazy, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    If you know the item but not the means, how does that help you prioritize your game time?
    If I know the location of the item I want is in Instance B, then I also know I don't have to go running through Instance A for an hour to get nothing that I want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    i do not like to be spoonfed but giving the option is irresistible and that is why i hope SE disagree on this one and let other 3rd party do the job for you spoonfed mania!
    Providing information on a list of items and their stats is now being spoonfed? That makes no sense, since it has no viable impact on gameplay in and of itself. Lore does not get ruined, battle mechanics do not get ruined, the means in which to obtain the items, is not ruined...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    My subligar says no to this, you want the info just look up those data-mine websites like others said.
    I'd rather play through it couple times and see what drops myself, then once I'm tired of doing it over and over i'll check it out... although I got a wife who sits right next to me going Rein!!! (in real name) I WANT THIS!!! points to the gear in the data-mine website.... and I go orz
    Rein how are you and your wife doing? I remember doing dynamis with LotL back on Hades for a bit. Glad you made it over to this love/hate relationship we call Eorzea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Because I play video games to be active, and not lazy, right?
    except you've made it blatantly clear that playing the game has nothing to do with it. You want SQEX to tell you every piece of gear that drops before you play the game and find it out yourself. The laziness was in reference to you wanting to be spoonfed the info instead of doing it yourself. Kind hard to miss that obvious point.
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    Just play the game and learn like everyone else. Tired of hearing people whine about not being spoonfed everything.

    Easy button, no thanks.
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  5. #15
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    Kuro L'anzce
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    Why are there even yg? or even database website are for? :| Let SE do the magic of presenting good quality stuff then doing this ~_~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Rein how are you and your wife doing? I remember doing dynamis with LotL back on Hades for a bit. Glad you made it over to this love/hate relationship we call Eorzea
    we're both good; good old times on Hades hehe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Because I play video games to be active, and not lazy, right?
    So basically all games you play you only play if the rewards are good and not even trying them out and seeing for yourself? You'd rather see endings of the game first then go, oh that looks good now let me try it?

    Whats the fun in it if you already know what you're going to see/get beforehand?

    Just saying, not trying to start anything
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    Please. For the love of which ever god out there... Do not start putting out details about drops that are comming. Not in 1.18 nor in any other patch. It completely destroys the element of surprise and always starts a rush towards specific items. Let the players figure this stuff out over time and let the mystique and excitement of "unknowns" live for as long as possible.

    Just say NO to easy mode.
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    absolutely not. there's a certain surprise and anticipation that must be maintained with content.
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  9. #19
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    It's fun figuring some of that stuff out. Like when the mid-level NMs were released I remember people from various linkshells reporting their findings that night. That was cool.

    I find it interesting that you're getting so much negative feedback on this though. When these days many people are on lodestone & the various forums seeking more info before it happens. A lot of time is spent on that. Basically spoiling most of the sense of surprise for later. Why not take it further?

    But apparently you've found the line where people say "Whoah, now that's a little too much spoiling of the surprise!" That's interesting.
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Main reason I say why not just do it is because if something ends up fun but drops nothing worthwhile, no one will do it unless they have to. A lot of MMOs suffer from this and even more so if you have the ability to see what everything drops ahead of time.

    Example in FFXI; No one will do Einherjar Tier I if they had the option to because it drops nothing but synthesis materials generally -- Same with Tier II, which the off chance of a lower tier abjuration dropping. Everyone would spam Tier III or Odin if they had the option because that's where all of the good drops come from.

    So if SE released a dungeon that's like:

    Tier I = Most fun you can ever have. (Drops nothing but decorative items)
    Tier II = Even more Fun (Drops nothing but decorative items)
    Tier III = Horrible, you'll die every second you're in here, but it drops epic gear. (Insert Gear list)
    Tier IV = Don't even bother trying without 98 people and 200 backup for the 1% CHANCE at getting even more epic gear (insert Gear list)
    Tier V = Hell, but has the best gear at 100% chance of dropping (Insert Gear list)

    Guess which tier people will flood to? This is why a bit of mystery is good.

    To each their own, but generally playing is all about finding out new things; How I see it anyway.
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