BLM macros

[ViviAnimus]

I have tried both methods for quite a long time (3x 11 minute casts for each method) and preemtively casting fire III after your last fire I resulted in the most DPS. It's not that surprising to be honest.
If I'm not mistaken, this is why:

My fire III hits for 1100 instead of 850
In my method it's basically: Fire I (750 damage) - Fire III (1100 damage) - Blizzard III (450 damage) - Thunder II 160 damage - Here the GCD is triggered after the Fire III (which always happens after you cast Fire III after Fire I)
In the second method you go: Fire I (750 damage) - Blizzard III (450 damage) - Thunder II (160 damage) - Transpose - Fire III - 850 damage (this is where your GCD kicks in)
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2460 damage my method
2210 damage the second method

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Basically, in both rotations there is a GCD where you can weave something in between. Am I missing something here?

[Urielparadox]

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But I've learned to be a bit smarter....I put manawall first because the cd is fairly short relative to manaward. If i need manaward, I let the macro execute and have manawall as a bonus (unnecessary maybe but not inherently bad) and if I only need manawall, i just interrupt the macro before manaward is cast. Complicated, maybe, but I've done it long enough that it's second nature

There is a lot of, "you should be doing this" and not why you should be doing this, so thats what the OP argues. In this case Manawall/ward have no fight that I can think of you need both at the same time. Howver in most fights i'm using both of these as much as possible. The reason is like only 1 person said, manawall will prevent knockbacks(not the knockback from titan ex goal stomp though that's the only I can think of) It will prevent a knockback from landslide which is about 2 extra cast a use. if you use it every-time it's up to not move during landslade

1)For the OP. That half second makes a huge difference quite often, there are a good number of fights where if you don't have the proper spellspeed, and/or hesitate/loose .56 seconds you are going to interrupt your next cast, or have to cast a dramatically weaker spell, and adjust your rotation to keep dps up. Right after titan lands at hear phase for instance eI can a thunder 1 -> am -> fire 3 off just before I have to move for that first set of plums, however if I miss that just half a second at anytime I wont get both spells off. that's a dramatic dps loss for blm. AM is a gap closer, I have mine set to a certain party number and I put the person I will be porting to for that fight as that number, ussualy the drg bards jumping backwarsd when you use it is not fun.(though I have levi one that's for my tank so i'm always on the proper side). You can use it on titan/ifrit ex to stand back for the first 15seconds and nuke while the dps waste time running in then just AM over to them. t1 you can use it to help dodge poisen spits, t2, -t4 don't really have a lot of movement I have only used AM in T4 way back in the day. T6 yep, levi, yep. so basically 75-80% of the current content it will provide you with extra dps.

2) VIVI are you a troll? why are you starting with fire 1?

[kujowaltz]

So I guess your going to tell me I'm doing it all wrong? go xD

No I just wanted to know if you knew what you were talking about before I decided which direction to go with this response. The lack of info was for you to fill in. :P

Great reply by the way, but you gave me the exact thing I was looking for. You'll "delay a small fraction of a second". You're concept of "delay" is, at the minimum, 0.2 seconds (based on nerve response) and then factor in that you are not Billy the Kid. So going back to your post I replied to, you referenced half seconds as being the reason there are so many useless BLM out there. Yet even you admit there are times when waiting "fractions of a second" (which aren't actually as small as they seem) can not only be irrelevant to DPS but sometimes necessary.

not trying to be a dick, I just like debating people :P If you really wanna be a superior BLM you need to beef up those myelin sheaths bro, keep your central nervous system at optimum

[kujowaltz]

There is a lot of, "you should be doing this" and not why you should be doing this

Yeah I just commented that I found the combination useful for me and have cleared up to T5 so far with no issues in using it. I know it's not optimal, but as one of the reasons I stated, as a ps4 user in endgame, the hotbar gets crowded. My hotbar is already full of essential skills and should I separate, I will have to transition between different hotbars. I already do, in fact, for some other skills. If you have a brain fart trying to remember what hotbar manawall is on, you can easily waste more than half a second getting it right. So for me, yes, it may lower my DPS slightly combining, but i will never be fumbling around looking for the proper skill and risk getting knocked off the arena for titan or whatever it may be. Its a calculated compromise that I find works best in my case. Maybe I should practice more with switching between hotbars, we shall see.

[rigormortis]

Not sure if you use it or not, but you can set the controller so Holding down L2 and then holding down R2 will bring up a mini crossbar of 8 actions. The reverse also works, R2 first then L2, but I have both options set to show the same 8 (cross bar 8 left side). It's another 8 actions without having to toggle the R1 button, which might be useful if you only use one main crossbar.

[scarebearz]

So going back to your post I replied to, you referenced half seconds as being the reason there are so many useless BLM out there. Yet even you admit there are times when waiting "fractions of a second" (which aren't actually as small as they seem) can not only be irrelevant to DPS but sometimes necessary.

There are some times when it can be useful to delay slightly (in my opinion), the difference with this situation is that it would be Intentional, with some of the macro's mentioned you would get getting Unintentional delays that could easily be avoided by doing it manually.

I'm not saying your a useless BLM, but there are a lot of useless BLM's and unintentional delays / misuse of skills are certainly part of the reason for this. Though the biggest reason for this is them not knowing when to cast spells (e.g. when needing to dodge on titan ex) or just a poor rotation.

[ViviAnimus]

No Uriel, perhaps I am bad at explaining things, or your comprehensive reading skills are off. I clearly state at the end of a rotation. Of course this is ASIII Fire I, dude. I mean, seriously? I would advise you that it's always wise to read up on a previous post when someone continues to build on one ... Also, if the powers of deduction are upon you: why would a starter Fire I hit for 750?

[Urielparadox]

No Uriel, perhaps I am bad at explaining things, or your comprehensive reading skills are off. I clearly state at the end of a rotation. Of course this is ASIII Fire I, dude. I mean, seriously? I would advise you that it's always wise to read up on a previous post when someone continues to build on one ... Also, if the powers of deduction are upon you: why would a starter Fire I hit for 750?

damn you Sherlock Holmes I forgot my number one rule, logic. I don't understand your post because I don't understand what you are saying since neither.
I reread and its def. not mentioned that the rotation starts with a fire, though yes I should have assumed with the damage. This thread is for a new blm I highly doubt he will understand your post, because it really is not explained well. I don't really know what it means or what those rotations are, like why are you transposing after a blizzard before you cast fire 3? any blm can know instantly it's weaker dps, without using a parser. also I'm assuming you mean cast fire till your low on mp? but your statement clearly stats casting fire once, since it has no precursor that would state that fire 3 is first, there is also nothing that states fire is being repeat, and that it is only cast once.if your not casting it multiple this is gunna screw up your rotation since mp values are of huge importance, if I also understand it right your saying you finish your rotation with a hard cast fire 3? this is a dps loss compared to finishing with a swift flair or you know just another fire spell. I can only assume your casting fire 3 while at like 15000mp which means your wasting time casting fire 3 as well as spending more time in umbral ice and less time in astral fire. If you are repeating it. So yes though hard casting fire 3 might put you at the right mp tick, you should be casting the proper thunder for the time you need so T3 is not a dps loss, it's just .5 second longer cast, and those .5 seconds made up from casting thunder 3 are going to do way more damage then casting fire 3 at the end of a cycle(missing out on 2 proc chances so .8 fire 3(around 900 in your case).
You can;t accuratly compair a rotain that relies on a tick because a fire 1 followed by a fire 3, you can still get a fire proc in that time which boom there goes your tic timing

[kujowaltz]

I'm not saying your a useless BLM, but there are a lot of useless BLM's and unintentional delays / misuse of skills are certainly part of the reason for this. Though the biggest reason for this is them not knowing when to cast spells (e.g. when needing to dodge on titan ex) or just a poor rotation.

agree 100%

[scarebearz]

not trying to be a dick, I just like debating people :P

agree 100%

Debating: Your doing it wrong! xD