T8 Dragoon and needing TP song early?

[Ooshima]

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Hmm well you guys still cleared it comfortably anyways, no point to change it now. Just sounds weird to me to have both melees running around

Our team composition for T8 is PLD, MNK, DRG, BRD, SMN, BLM, WHM, SCH. SMN+BRD Team A handing Dreadnaught towers, WHM+SCH Team B handing Mine towers. DRG handles homing missile and brainjack.

Landmines are split into tank's side or DPS side. Tank's side tank takes them all. DPS side it is split among DRG/BRD/SMN.

Ballistic missiles are on a priority system where WHM is #1, SCH #2 and BRD#3 - WHM will always be the first person to handle the large circle, if it's binded, our SCH goes in, if both healers binded, then BRD goes in.

BLM are just on standby mode - in case we need him to handle certain mechanics due to one of the designated guys has Allagan Field.

As you can see we prioritize MNK to keep pushing for DPS, same goes to our BLM by making him on standby mode to reduce any downtime for his casts. BRD/SMN are the flexible DPS classes so they handle the movement mechanics. DRG was semi-scarified because it has lesser DPS potential than the MNK but at the same time, having the backflips and jumps to quickly getting back to action. DRG is wearing armor compared to other DPS classes which wear cloth, so the higher physical def + higher HP helps in handling missiles and brainjacks - in case shit happens, DRG survives better. The sacrifice wasn't a big one thou, about 20DPS drop from a pure dummy parse. Overall I think we cleared it under 10mins - on the 7th tower we pushed 2 mines and 1 AoE which we downed it comfortably after clearing mines.

[Lemon8or]

Then we found out that he had way under 400 skill speed, one of my friends were commenting with that skill speed it's difficult to squeeze the required skills with Perfect Balance blah blah.

I don't play a MNK, but Perfect Balance (PB) lasts only 10s - which means you will need 2.0s GCD

400 skillspeed for 5 skills is a myth. I've had as low as +0 skillspeed from my gears and still able to hit 5 skills within that time frame. The reason for that is, in order to hit 5 skills within 10 seconds, the GCD should be a bit below 2.3 seconds. 5 skills mean 4 GCD between skill activation with a bit of a delay between Perfect Balance activation and the first Coeurl form skills, usually Demolish. That's why it's important that the first 3 skills under Perfect Balance is Coeurl forms to bring GCD that low to fit the last skill in right as Perfect Balance end. I usually hit the 5th skill with 1 second left on Perfect Balance.

[WhiteWindHD]

Yeah, skill speed is the devil, you don't require any of it for PB and 5 skills. Just about the only thing it does note worthy for you is make you go through TP faster.

As a mnk on T8.

50% first dread I pop invig
just prior to the second dread brd pops a battlevoiced army
invig's take me through the rest of the fight.

[Ooshima]

Hmm I see. Thanks for the info!

[Ephier]

I don't play a MNK, but Perfect Balance (PB) lasts only 10s - which means you will need 2.0s GCD to squeeze in 5 skills under PB. Your basic GCD after skill speed boost should be fast enough to quickly trigger skills that gives GL stacks to accelerate your GCDs faster to squeeze in the required skills

Eidolon: SKS = skillspeed, PB = perfect balance.

You do not need a 2.0 GCD to fit in five skills. I use all my BFB, IR, HF, SP, and a STR pot, along with 5 skills in the use of one PB. My GCD is 2.06.

[Cococai]

Honestly as a mnk myself and running with the same setup yours mnk/drg/brd/blm... your mnk should be very worried if you're needing tp song before him. There is seriously something wrong with that. Either he is taking too long on a tower duty or something else. Think about it, mnk has 27% sklspd buff and invigorate is -100 compared to a drg. I don't have any skill speed in my gears so I can tell you for sure, there is no way a drg will need peon before a monk. If you guys want to increase overall raid dmg do not let your monk be on tower duty. You guys would want him on that dummy boss at all times. Drg's have it good for tower duty because you guys can elusive jump from boss to tower and jump back in and the process only takes around 2-3 secs and back to dps'ng again.