Ilevel requirement needs revision

[Taei]

So I enter this DR. Halatali HM. I go in, and I see this DRG with 3.2k HP and see that he is in crafting gear and asked him he was SBing. He said yes, I politely asked him not to SB in DR, because personally I like to go through my DR's as quickly as possible. Person refuses and I just end up leaving.

I think its pretty rude to go into DR expecting people to help you SB or even kill extra mobs for Exp. Not everyone in there has the time, and it's DR, not an EXP party. Sure if people ask nicely we can kill a few extra mobs on the way, but SBing the entire dungeon with basically no gear?

SE should look into having some base stat requirements too because I am not going to carry these people through DR...they can SB at Urth's Font on their own time.

*edit People who have been suggesting that I am selfish or players that expect a run to be completed in a timely manner to be seflish are idiots. ITS THE PERSON WHO IS NOT GEARED ENOUGH FOR THE DUNGEON THAT IS SELFISH BY BEING INCONSIDERATE TOWARDS THE OTHER THREE MEMBERS IN THE PARTY. HELLO

[Sadana]

But couldn't you say the same thing about expecting a SR in the DF/DR? Either way it's selfishness... ^^;

Did I say SR?

I politely asked him not to SB in DR, because personally I like to go through my DR's as quickly as possible. Person refuses and I just end up leaving....

I think its pretty rude to go into DR expecting people to help you SB or even kill extra mobs for Exp. Not everyone in there has the time, and it's DR, not an EXP party.

If this isn't expecting a speedrun... what did you mean?

[SendohJin]

the iLevel is fine because new players can clear those dungeons but spiritbonding in DF is lame.

[MrLeonheart]

I think its pretty rude to go into DR expecting people to help you SB or even kill extra mobs for Exp.

I think it's rude to go in to anything and tell people how to play.

[Taei]

Did I say SR?

[Saccharin]

Kick him. There's an article on the support in game that says that SE wont action a democratic kick providing it's not abused. Ask him to change gear politely and if not say why you're kicking him (for the record) on party chat and then pick afk. Harassment might be frowned upon by SE.

[PArcher]

Kick him. There's an article on the support in game that says that SE wont action a democratic kick providing it's not abused. Ask him to change gear politely and if not say why you're kicking him (for the record) on party chat and then pick afk. Harassment might be frowned upon by SE.

That's abuse of VTK...and you can get punished for it if he reports you for harassment.

EDIT: Not saying its right to go in with full SB gear on...but its also not right to do into the DF expecting speed-runs.

[Akira]

its a game and imo if its allowed in the game its fine its his choice to sb in DR i mean all the dungeons are so face roll easy who cares as long as he knows what hes doing. leave all that stuff out of dr, now if it was coil id understand. but if you want fast myth/soldiery get friends together and speed run brayflox or join one in pf its faster to cap soldiery and get myth anyways

[Elikitts]

its a game and imo if its allowed in the game its fine its his choice to sb in DR i mean all the dungeons are so face roll easy who cares as long as he knows what hes doing. leave all that stuff out of dr, now if it was coil id understand. but if you want fast myth/soldiery get friends together and speed run brayflox or join one in pf its faster to cap soldiery and get myth anyways

Ignorance is bliss.

If your entire party was in crafting SB gear (As in not a single stat of str, dex, vit, int, or mnd) you would be unable to clear WP. Let alone any other lv 50 dungeon. It's not about a speed run. It's about forcing a group to do a dungeon with 3 members so you can get free materia.

[ZephyrAM]

Wouldn't it just be best to see if the members 'can' pull off whatever they're doing before even taking issue with it? Unless someone's severely under performing, there's no good reason to examine them in the first place. Heck, it's possible for a 50 in crafting gear to do better then an appropriate level character in who knows what kind of leveling gear, and you have no right to take issue with someone still learning/leveling.

Basically, see if things are a problem before turning them into one.


Edit:
Also, you point out that his HP are what caused you to look at his gear, leading me to believe that he didn't have crafting armor on, or you'd see that right off the bat likely. If it was just crafting accessories, then it's not even an issue. People do that constantly with little to no hindrance.