Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
I have to disagree on the wintrading.

Wintrade isnt used to play with another group, its standing still and take a beating then switch to be the one doing the beating.

And it DOES effect others, people are forced into fights against players/groups with maxed out pvp rank/gear which decreases the chance of winning quite a bit.

If wintraders didnt get an upperhand when im fighting them in pvp then i wouldnt care, unfortuenly they do.
Same thing with Dzmael speedruns. It DOES affect (not effect) others, these people (on aoe dps jobs) have an unfair advantage that lets them hit 50 sooner, get geared up sooner, there's even marginally good gil/hour in speedrunning DD! Let's all cry exploit at that too huh?