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    Saccharin's Avatar
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    Blue Kitty
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    Flash costs MP, Riot Blade gives you MP back, New players then "put 2 and 2 together" without reading all of the tool tips. They don't use it for Enmity they use it because that one Flash they used made them lose MP.

    It's kind of sad really
    That's what I did assume at first but they never used flash. It feels like I have to school every pally in how to use basic pally functions. It gets very tedious. Yesterday in roulette we had a glad who just couldn't keep hate. We all tell him what to do and he doesn't. He suddenly decides he has to go and I 'tank' the rest as a Bard and we three man it well. Bard tank! OH, it was Tam-Tara. Grrr
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    SukoshiSeppen's Avatar
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    Sukoshi Seppen
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    If your going to spirit bold gear...at least have it being the crafted DoW or DoM i55 and swap to normal gear for bosses. This would be less of an issue if you could convert the dungeon gear thats below i90
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    Chihaya's Avatar
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Disable spiritbinding in level 50 dungeons.

    And make accessories job/class specific.

    Tired of seeing people getting into coil with accessories that is not their primary stats, just so they meet the ilvl to queue. I can understand some healers in VIT, but cmon, most of these people are DPS using non-primary stat pieces that does them minimal good.
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    juniglee's Avatar
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 70
    I spiritbond in dungeons all the time. But only as a healer. Never as a DPS.

    Also, only accessories. Not a full set.

    I do it when farming myths for my Animus books, and earn a little money on the side.
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    Nictuswolf's Avatar
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    Character
    Naomi Fordragon
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Taei View Post
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    I hate to be that "person" but I have to remind you that other people do play this game.

    The world does not revolve around you and the quicker you accept that the better.

    If you don't like it, there is always the leave dungeon button.

    I have done this and did better than the idiot in appropriate ILvl gear. Gear doesn't always make the player, skill does.

    Titan Ex and HM should have taught you this. All the gear in the world doesn't save you from being a baddie.
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    Player Keikun's Avatar
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    Sakura Minami
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nictuswolf View Post
    I hate to be that "person" but I have to remind you that other people do play this game.

    The world does not revolve around you and the quicker you accept that the better.

    If you don't like it, there is always the leave dungeon button.

    I have done this and did better than the idiot in appropriate ILvl gear. Gear doesn't always make the player, skill does.

    Titan Ex and HM should have taught you this. All the gear in the world doesn't save you from being a baddie.
    SB in a dungeon is LAME no matter how sweet you wanna make it look just cause you do it, its just disrespectful to others, whoever does it is a terrible player.
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    Lstkaws's Avatar
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    Tonup Coheed
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Keikun View Post
    SB in a dungeon is LAME no matter how sweet you wanna make it look just cause you do it, its just disrespectful to others, whoever does it is a terrible player.
    SB in DF is fine. I would not do it with crafting gear, but so longs as it is primary stat accessories it should not matter. There is absolutely no need for me to go to HM dungeons in my full i93 gear. Might make a few seconds faster, but not enough for anyone to notice. SBing crafting gear is a little lame but as long as the person is doing okay I would not complain. I never check gear unless there are problems.
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    Nicobo's Avatar
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Taei View Post
    So I enter this DR. Halatali HM. I go in, and I see this DRG with 3.2k HP and see that he is in crafting gear and asked him he was SBing. He said yes, I politely asked him not to SB in DR, because personally I like to go through my DR's as quickly as possible. Person refuses and I just end up leaving.

    I think its pretty rude to go into DR expecting people to help you SB or even kill extra mobs for Exp. Not everyone in there has the time, and it's DR, not an EXP party. Sure if people ask nicely we can kill a few extra mobs on the way, but SBing the entire dungeon with basically no gear?

    SE should look into having some base stat requirements too because I am not going to carry these people through DR...they can SB at Urth's Font on their own time.
    That DRG should have to say "Hello new player first time here" then no one can blame him for anything! ^^;
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    Macka's Avatar
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    Macka Na'vatru
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Taei View Post
    So I enter this DR. Halatali HM. I go in, and I see this DRG with 3.2k HP and see that he is in crafting gear and asked him he was SBing. He said yes, I politely asked him not to SB in DR, because personally I like to go through my DR's as quickly as possible. Person refuses and I just end up leaving.

    I think its pretty rude to go into DR expecting people to help you SB or even kill extra mobs for Exp. Not everyone in there has the time, and it's DR, not an EXP party.
    You do realize just because you enter DR doesn't mean he did. Also if you don't have time to run a full dungeon why que anyway. Who you think would do more damage ilevel 90 with crafting accessories or that that other dps in af gear looking to upgrade to darklight? Also, if I'm the tank best believe we killing everything for exp/gil deal or leave your choice. Another thing every dungeon up to the level 50 ones is a damn exp otherwise why would we do them? Surely not for gear.
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    Last edited by Macka; 05-16-2014 at 02:25 PM.

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    TomTom1968's Avatar
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    Character
    Tomba Labomba
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Please don't forget that restrictions like "no DOL/DOH items in DF" also take away Freedom. Freedom to do it with friends or parties where everybody is cool with it. I want to have that kind of Freedom and rather deal with a few idiots individually who think they can use DF for that (which I also find absurd).

    I also don't mind if people spiritbond 1-2 items in a dungeon. If you are Item Level 90+, it won't hurt if your DOL necklace brings you down to Level 87 for a dungeon with Item level 55 requirements. You are still over geared. Of course, only valid for regular dungeons. I would not be cool with seeing spiritbonding in Coil (T3 left aside) or Extreme fights where every little bit counts.

    Sometimes solving a problem is also killing personal choice and the question is, are there enough disturbances thanks to spiritbonding players in dungeons to make it impossible for everybody? I don't think so.
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