Why do new players receive death threats for enjoying the story?

[Axiom]

Maybe I am still not explaining it right so I will try again. It's the best I can do as you're taking time out of your day to post here and try and understand my point of view.

- I am not complaining because of others. I am complaining because of the system. I merely used other player's rude remarks as a catalyst for the issue.

- Watching them in my own time is not the solution for everyone as, for example, I wish the story to be in context with the gameplay. That's the whole reason the cutscenes are in the dungeons in the first place.

- Asking people to politely wait has been proven not to work all the time, so that can't be a solution either. Not everyone wants to or should wait for people to watch the cutscenes.

- The party finder is not a solution because it is not obvious enough. It is not even clear to new players who are about to embark on the final story dungeons.

Let me know if that doesn't help you understand my issue. Thanks.

[Natashio]

I will never understand the argument that watching the cut scenes as they were intended, in dungeon, is considered inconsiderate to the other players. I am so sure that all those screaming 'watch them in the inn', watched the cut scenes in dungeon while others waited or left them behind on their first run. So what people had run a story dungeon 100 times, everybody pays the same for the game. I be hell if I or anyone that enjoys this game for the story has to play by the rules of those that just rush through things. My suggestion, enjoy your cut scenes. If the group leaves you behind, that's alright because you can repeat the dungeon at your leisure. Heck bring some friends that don't mind waiting and if they white mages..... :>.

[Tamorae]

You got screwed, and it's annoying that a game about the story, is not treated that way. There isn't an easy way to figure this out. I never mind when a new person is watching a CS for the first time. I encourage it, even if I'm limited on my play time. They're trying to tell you a story, so you deserve to be able to see it first hand, DF or not. I guess gone are the days when people would wait and help people that are new to things. Everyone starts out as a pro and has seen everything for the umpteenth time.

[Duuude007]

You don't seem to understand the issue at all. It is not down to harassment, I already stated why it wasn't multiple times in very clear English. I don't believe I can explain the issue more clearly to you so I will hope that you might understand at one point or move on.

Nice choice in title then.

The only issue then is what, that you can't control whether the party performs a certain way? That is precisely what PF is for.

DF is meant to be a dumbed-down PF where there are minimal expectations, no preconditions except quest progression to access, and a very basic iLevel.

Please try to wrap your brain around that, because the way you are coming across as...

You know what, nevermind.

Do what you gotta do.

[Axiom]

Nice choice in title then.

The only issue then is what, that you can't control whether the party performs a certain way? That is precisely what PF is for.

DF is meant to be a dumbed-down PF where there are minimal expectations, no preconditions except quest progression to access, and a very basic iLevel.

Please try to wrap your brain around that, because the way you are coming across as...

You know what, nevermind.

Do what you gotta do.

Well I'm sorry I annoyed you, it was not intended. Maybe the choice of title was not the best, which is why I tried again with the petition post.
I completely understand what the PF and the DF are for, but that does not solve the issue of the party finder not being obvious to new players. That is the main issue here, nothing else.
It's not about other people, it's about personal enjoyment of the cutscenes. That other people react angrily towards it allows the issue to become an issue and not just a request.

I will try again with this issue in the future and hopefully I will word it better. Thanks for the feedback.

[Diablo-Cyrus]

I can say I have skipped every cut scene, story line or dungeon... Wanna know why? I don't care enough to read and see these characters make giggle noises. I get the jist of what's going on without having to sit through it, and there's No way I would ever think it's ok for me to slow anyone down. I feel bad when I screw up in dungeons, or if I'm new to one I announce it. Think of the other players, good lord. It's not about you!! I'm done with this thread, you guys are absurd.

[Gnova]

They should make it so that if you want to run the main scenario DF for tomes you can not skip CSs unless every person clicks yes to skip it.
Then they can decide whether it is worth their time queueing for it. Most still will because it is a decent time investment even with the added time needed to watch the scenes.

I really regretted skipping all the CSs on my first run through on the dungeons since the zone ended up feeling very disjointed and watching it in the inn wasn't the same as if I had been able to watch it in sequence with the fights between.

[Ecosmith]

I can say I have skipped every cut scene, story line or dungeon... Wanna know why? I don't care enough to read and see these characters make giggle noises. I get the jist of what's going on without having to sit through it, and there's No way I would ever think it's ok for me to slow anyone down. I feel bad when I screw up in dungeons, or if I'm new to one I announce it. Think of the other players, good lord. It's not about you!! I'm done with this thread, you guys are absurd.

This is why you should not be playing FF14, OP. It's not for players like you who love the story of the single player FF games. Its for this guy and his ilk. Tl;dr.

One of the problems, for me, is thst the cutscenes are bloody terrible. They're AWFUL. If there are 15-minute cutscenes in dungeons, as was mentioned earlier, then that's unbelievably bad design. I think the dungeon cutscenes should be no longer than 20 seconds long, no more than say 4 of them per dungeon, and unskippable.

I agree with you that wacgning them later out of context is a ridiculous suggestuon to someone who likes story.

[Moqi]

Have you reported them? You should.

People who do Prae are on duty roulette, which is meant to help players. Anyone who doesn't do that is in the wrong, period. I don't care how many times you've seen the cutscenes, you were put there to help the new guy, you'll do just that. I wish there was a way to stop those people from getting bonuses because they do not deserve anything.

OP, I ran prae with a FC member who was new. I said it upfront that I would do whatever he wanted to do and wait for him. He said he wanted to watch all the cs; a tank a 2 dps immediately left, followed by another after.a while. Only the other healer and the tank stayed until the end, but a fc and ls members joined in progress to help us out. I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but know that there are still kind players around. I hope endgame will be better.

[Koga_Edge]

You have every right to watch those cutscenes, Just as Diablo said it's inconsiderate to have people watch cutscenes, it is even more so to make a person skip or expect them to skip those cutscenes, SE put them there for a reason, for you the player to enjoy them. While I partake in daily roulettes for the later two dungeons of the game story, I never tell anyone to hurry the f**k up in cutscenes. However in the future, I would recommend that you start a party in PF with the phrase "Not a speedrun, watching the cutscenes" or something along those lines.
I know you shouldn't have to do that, but sometimes it is needed