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    PLD BiS (Post T9) - Widely Accepted vs. Optimized Crit

    Hey i just wanted to get your opionions regarding 2 PLD BiS sets. There is essentially a "Widely Accepted" BiS List that has been circulating for quite some time and is pretty much used as the Benchmark these days.

    I found a post on Reddit (Credit goes to SluggySlugg) which is relative to the "Widely Accepted" set but essentially trades off:
    +57 Crit, -9 DET, -44 SS, and -1 Parry.

    Some believe that you should never trade off a main stat (Parry in this situation) for any amount of secondary stat.

    I personally think -1 Parry is definately worth adding +57 Crit regardless of the primary/secondary stat debate.

    What are your thoughts?

    BiS (Widely Accepted)
    BiS (Optimized Crit)


    Edit: If anyone is interested in the Parry Stat i suggest reading this to get a better understanding of how its calculated.

    TLDR: Apparently +13 points of Parry equate to a gain of 1% Parry chance/rate (0.08% per point)
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 05-22-2014 at 09:49 PM.

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    i base all my stats on coil, so acc and parry are my major concerns, while it would be nice to have 57 crit i don't know if i really need that as a tank just trying to be a tank for T9 (when i get there). Rather the -44 Skill Speed really concerns me as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WingsofWar View Post
    i base all my stats on coil, so acc and parry are my major concerns, while it would be nice to have 57 crit i don't know if i really need that as a tank just trying to be a tank for T9 (when i get there). Rather the -44 Skill Speed really concerns me as well.
    I appreciate your input. Although i've heard Skill Speed is the most useless stat when it comes down (Excluding WAR for IB spam/MNK as long as they are above 400) to it as long as you are above a specific threshold.

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    for me, I'm goin for CRIT/DET/parry, and avoid SS. so my BiS will prolly be differ form most people.

    here what it look like,
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/MK3F

    only missing Body Pant, Belt, Ring, and a few oil and sand ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remn View Post
    for me, I'm goin for CRIT/DET/parry, and avoid SS. so my BiS will prolly be differ form most people.

    here what it look like,
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/MK3F

    only missing Body Pant, Belt, Ring, and a few oil and sand ><

    I think the stats on the site got messed up or am i missing something (364 acc) ?
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    I think calling Parry a primary stat is a mistake. Sacrifice 1 parry for a bunch of crit any day, twice sundays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    I think the stats on the site got messed up or am i missing something (364 acc) ?
    that set will give me around 496 acc total, (with acc food., I should end up around 515-520 nicely) If my math is correct.
    most of my right side has Acc (except allagan Ring) that plus, HA pant, SoL boot, HA belt and HA weapon.

    I did math on excel using the official site DB as my resource.
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    Potato, potato secondary stats are barely worth discussing. Swap in a single str accessory will blow out your crit build.

    People stack parry/VIT while main tanking until they are over geared. OTs have various rolls but the first swap in is STR accessories. (Full DPS str or crafted hybrids).
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    Personally I would go for crit and less skill speed. However you are really at the mercy of the RNG for a lot of the high allagen pieces, and you have a whole group of 7 people who also need sands and oils so its pretty much take what you can get until 2nd coil has been out a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Potato, potato secondary stats are barely worth discussing. Swap in a single str accessory will blow out your crit build.

    People stack parry/VIT while main tanking until they are over geared. OTs have various rolls but the first swap in is STR accessories. (Full DPS str or crafted hybrids).
    I'm speaking from the MT perspective. Furthermore the main reason i posted this was to get some type of confirmation on how the Parry stat is calculated (Linear vs. Non).

    To essentially figure out how much of the parry stat is needed to increase the parry rate by 1% for example. Which would give me a better idea weather or not this -1 parry is worth the +57 Crit as many seem to be Divided on this subject.

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