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    bokchoykn's Avatar
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    Bokchoy Mcnuggets
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Warriors can take it one step further and use their defensive cooldowns as offensive cooldowns. Dropping Defiance and popping defensive cooldowns is like having Unchained up. It's safe to do as long as aggro is solid and as long as you know that you won't need these cooldowns (defensively) within the next two minutes.

    Drop Defiance + Pop Vengeance is like having a slightly better Shield Oath for 15s.

    Drop Defiance + Pop Thrill & Convalescence is like having a slightly weaker Defiance for 20s.

    Between these options and Unchained, it's like you're getting 50% uptime of Unchained DPS while tanking.

    It's not always practical, but I find it useful vs Leviathan Ex, Titan Ex, GKMM Ex. Probably Melusine too if I actually MT'ed this fight.
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    Last edited by bokchoykn; 05-23-2014 at 07:57 AM.

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    Dosito's Avatar
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    Sterrmann Opf'goht
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by bokchoykn View Post
    things .
    I used to do this on certain fight\s (mind you I have absolutely NO coil experience) on my PLD

    but like on boss fights I would get a hefty lead in hate, then switch to Sword Oath. I was yelled at by one of my linkshell members for doing this but there wasn't any issue of hate loss.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by bokchoykn View Post
    Warriors can take it one step further and use their defensive cooldowns as offensive cooldowns. Dropping Defiance and popping defensive cooldowns is like having Unchained up. It's safe to do as long as aggro is solid and as long as you know that you won't need these cooldowns (defensively) within the next two minutes.
    Yup, been toying around with a STR build WAR (I main a BRD and alt a PLD) with i70 DPS accessories and respected 30VIT to 30STR, the difference is clearly noticeable in in dungeons and coil1. Hate shouldn't be much of an issue as I've noticed I could easily rip hate off a similarly geared PLD in shield oath. Last night I did a critical BB @ 1250 dmg without in defiance mode and it ripped hate off a i90+ PLD in shield oath stance.

    Still learning how to WAR, but as long as you survive, a STR build WAR is pretty amazing.
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