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    Saedrin Nightfury
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    2.25 Balance Request Megathread

    Please Contribute!

    GENERAL

    1) rework Skill Speed (perhaps have it additionally scale tp-regeneration)
    2) permit auto-attacking when using A+D to move sideways with Legacy Camera Settings enabled
    3) alternatively to number two, prioritize backwards-running when A+S or D+S is held

    BARD

    1) Songs - slightly reduce cast-times across the board
    2) Straight Shot – display proc-effect sooner

    BLACK MAGE

    1) Scathe – make Enchaned Scathe Trait 50% (from 20%)
    2) Surecast – allow move-and-cast for the duration (even post-consumption)
    3) Transpose – speed up effect-application; don't allow to consume Swiftcast

    DRAGOON

    1) Piercing Talon - make off-GCD

    MONK

    1) Arm of the Destroyer - tp to 100 (from 120tp)
    2) Fists of Wind – also restores 20tp per auto-attack*
    3) Greased Lightning – duration to 14s (from 12s)
    4) Haymaker – make off-GCD
    5) Perfect Balance – retain stance upon expiration
    6) Shoulder Tackle – add Bind/Heavy, remove Stun; dur to 3s, tp to 100 (from 2s, 120tp)**

    *accounts for approx. 80tp/11s at the expense of +5% net damage/11s
    *now usable during boss encounters that require a stun-rotation

    PALADIN

    1) Oaths - make off-GCD
    2) Shield Lob – remove combo-breaking
    3) Shield Swipe – make off-GCD

    WARRIOR

    1) Berserk – add “reduces TP costs by 25%” for the duration
    2) Bloodbath – add Enhanced Bloodbath Trait: converts 50% “ “
    3) Tomahawk – remove combo-breaking

    WHITE MAGE

    1) Benediction – don't let apply to dead target
    2) Cleric Stance - make more responsive
    3) Cure I – make Freecure Trait 20% (from 15%)
    4) Cure II – make Overcure Trait 20% & generate no Enmity (from 15%)
    5) Cure III – slightly increase radius; mana cost to 350 (from 400)
    3) Stoneskin – reduce cast-time to 2.5s (from 3s)


    {please contribute minor, plausible balance changes}
    {please keep in mind, these are not holistic changes across all classes}
    {in other words, if one class appears buffed, others may need to be buffed in accordance}
    {in other words, I don't necessarily mean for each & every one of these suggested changes to be implemented across the board}
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    Last edited by Gesser; 05-14-2014 at 03:58 AM.

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    You really don't see how stupidly OP that fists of wind buff is? It also makes Greased Lightning wearing off that much worse.

    As far as perfect balance goes it would be nice to be able to have it work as if we had all stances up at once so we could maybe use it for an emergency silence or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    You really don't see how stupidly OP that fists of wind buff is? It also makes Greased Lightning wearing off that much worse.

    As far as perfect balance goes it would be nice to be able to have it work as if we had all stances up at once so we could maybe use it for an emergency silence or something.
    Pb already works that way
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    Please Contribute!


    MONK
    6) Shoulder Tackle – add Bind/Heavy, remove Stun; dur to 3s, cd to 75s, tp to 100 (from 2s, 90s, 120tp)*

    *now usable during boss encounters that require a stun-rotation
    I really think instead of changing shoulder tackle/LegSweep, they should give us two versions of the same skill on a shared-GCD : One with stun, one without.

    In this way, we can choose to use stun, or not to use stun, while simultaneously not taking DPS hits because 'FFFF-stun.' If you're going to do annoying things like put a diminishing return on CC, then at least make it so our skills that boost our DPS / help us as a class don't have such effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    You really don't see how stupidly OP that fists of wind buff is? It also makes Greased Lightning wearing off that much worse.

    As far as perfect balance goes it would be nice to be able to have it work as if we had all stances up at once so we could maybe use it for an emergency silence or something.
    Please know the class/game mechanics before you cast judgment.

    Auto-attacks only. Skill speed does not affect auto-attack delay. Requires time fighting outside of Fists of Fire. As mentioned, PB already works like that.

    It's disrespectful to criticize balance changes for a game/job you're ignorant as to the mechanics of.
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Dragonfire Dive - Give a AOE dot field, the aoe alone is just a bad last skill in my opinion so giving it a dot like bards flame arrow skill.
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    Last edited by Remus; 04-09-2014 at 07:44 AM.

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    Seraph Khalid
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    Bard
    Fix weapon damage

    That is all.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Bard
    Fix weapon damage

    That is all.
    yes ,please
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    Bard
    Fix weapon damage

    That is all.
    Swiftsong. Make it stay during battle but consume MP like any other song while in use. Or at least make swiftsong not disappear when changing locations.

    Not a balance request but make it so there's a continuous melody being played when a bard is singing. Just make it soft so it doesn't drown out the bgm or sfx
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    Last edited by LunarEmerald; 04-09-2014 at 08:14 AM.

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    Honestly, I don't see why you think Greased Lightning's duration should be shortened. It's perfectly fine at 18 seconds. Also, if you're seriously running out of TP often enough that you would want that change to Fists of Wind, then put Invigorate on your cross-class skills. Heck, just slow down how quickly you use your abilities.

    However, I totally agree with the proposed changes to Arm of the Destroyer and Shoulder Tackle. Considering how little damage it does and how gimmicky the silence is, it costs too freaking much TP as-is, particularly in scenarios like Garuda's Plumes while the rocks are still standing, where you WANT to spam your AoEs.

    My contribution:
    Either lower the cost of One-Ilm Punch, or make it more useful somehow, as right now it's way too gimmicky. For example, have it inflict an attack speed penalty to the target or something if they don't have a buff that can be removed.
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