For /Crosshotbar and /hotbar, allow us to actually set stuff.

[DarkReed]

I can relate the these problems. I would like to be able to hit Summon III on mt smn and it change the 3 pet abitiles.

But, I was able to come up with a work round with a macro like this..

/ac "Contagion" <t>
/ac "Landslide" <t>
/ac "Flaming Crush" <t>

This way I have 1 macro with all level 40 pet abilties on. I have done the smae for the level 20 and and starting pet abiltiles.
The only issue I have with this setup is the lack of /micon command working with pet abitiles. So I just have to have a hot bar loaded with the pet abilties so I can see recasts for these abitlies.

[necrosis]

Why do people never push the UI elements to the edge of the screen?

[PArcher]

Every time I do expert mode/high mode roulette, people expect me to do more work than just healing and damage.

Um...no. People expect you to heal, and DPS when you can. You also need to deal with a dungeon's mechanics as appropriate.

Not only do they expect me to be able to handle speed runs with multiple pulls-often pulling all the way up to a barricade, but they expect me to help AOE while healing.

If you're a well-geared SCH (i80+) you can handle speed-runs in Brayflox if everyone else wants to do them. Its not hard, Adlo and Lustrate spam, Whispering Dawn and that other Eos healing ability. DPSing...no one expects that, never seen anyone ask a heal to do that, even in really strict pre-mades.

In addition to that, they expect me to do the markings for things such as doors, special targets, etc. In addition to any other tasks that they might decide on for me.

OK, so people expect you to actually run the dungeon and not autopilot. Marking doors is always best for a ranged person, healers especially; those first few seconds nothing is going on for you, so Healers are just best for the job. As for "special targets" (whatever that means in these dungeons), its tank's job to mark enemies...



Yeah, you're just trying to overcomplicate things. I have no idea why, but you are. None of the 4-man dungeons are hard especially for a healer, and the only time you have to do any serious healing (outside of incoming wipes) is during a speed-run...which is NOT the norm.

Again...have you done any raiding? And what is your gear?

[PArcher]

Why do people never push the UI elements to the edge of the screen?

When I'm playing, they ARE right on the edge. My screen resolution is off; I need to figure out how to fix it.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

Hi OP

here is my guide for macro, etc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

idk y u need to use so many thou, only thing i need to add now is DPS macro for using selene...

[ariaandkia]

I think whomever your doing these "you do everything" duty roulette with or speed run are just giving you a hard time. SCH is my main and of the 8 crossbars, I only use one fully and the second is mostly full. There is an automatically made pet bar you can activate via settings and tapping R1 will bring it up then return it back to your reg bars. I don't personally see a need to directly command Eos, which 99% of the time I use, except to tell her move there. If during Diablos fight your told to do the doors and mark them, your being overworked. I refuse to mark and heal that fight. Wasting crossbar space to setting up marks is IMO a silly inconvenience. A DPS should be the one marking the doors, it's not the hard to "DPS" a monster and have the camera looking elsewhere when they is next to no AoE markers to worry about. I'll open the doors but Healing, marking doors and adding some DPS; you've now become a slave to your party. The tank's roll is to just keep enimty and very little else there, and DPS is just DPS and if targeted by a gravity ball make it land a ways for the general conflict.
You're getting worked too hard and the complaint your are making is just making that point even bigger. The AI on the healer pets are rather good for basic healing, but the last 2 skills can be easily miss timed if you want them for a particular moment but I never bother commanding them since I think of them more as my healer support buddy. If you ask any of the people I've partied with, they will most like say I'm a great SCH healer, hell some might say I'm a better DPS then the DPS since I'll often pull hate off tanks unprepared for my Shadow Flare; Bio2 Miasma Bio Bane starter combo under cleric stance. Sometimes I won't drop the stance since Eos is usually enough for smaller pulls, but not for pulls of 3 or more monster groups.
Again I'll say it, your being worked to damn hard. Your not the slave of the party, your foundation of the party. If you break, the party falls with you.

You are probably right that they are just giving me a hard time, but again, considering how many expect it of me, it seems like that is just the normal thing.

Um...no. People expect you to heal, and DPS when you can. You also need to deal with a dungeon's mechanics as appropriate.



If you're a well-geared SCH (i80+) you can handle speed-runs in Brayflox if everyone else wants to do them. Its not hard, Adlo and Lustrate spam, Whispering Dawn and that other Eos healing ability. DPSing...no one expects that, never seen anyone ask a heal to do that, even in really strict pre-mades.



OK, so people expect you to actually run the dungeon and not autopilot. Marking doors is always best for a ranged person, healers especially; those first few seconds nothing is going on for you, so Healers are just best for the job. As for "special targets" (whatever that means in these dungeons), its tank's job to mark enemies...



Yeah, you're just trying to overcomplicate things. I have no idea why, but you are. None of the 4-man dungeons are hard especially for a healer, and the only time you have to do any serious healing (outside of incoming wipes) is during a speed-run...which is NOT the norm.

Again...have you done any raiding? And what is your gear?

How would I have raid gear if I don't do any raiding... And for some reason, it seems to be the norm whenever I play. And no, they don't expect me to "DPS when I can" They expect me to be DPSing while healing. It isn't a "when I can"

Example: I'm struggling to heal them since even divine seal+eye for an eye+virus+cure II+Swiftcast Medica II+Benediction+Shroud spam or Adlo spam with Eye for an Eye, Virus, Sacred Soil, Aetherflow, etc. is only barely keeping them alive-and I pretty much have to spam adlo since it is the only thing keeping them alive since gal is dropping so fast (How much I heal time-wise is more important than mana-wise). Considering how people probably shouldn't be doing speed runs of stuff with mostly i44-i70ish gear (or the tank might have their soul gem unequipped to "make the game a challenge" on top of doing a speedrun. However, on top of that, my tank in that situation is usually yelling at me for not doing "my job" of AoE'ing the mobs. This has happened multiple times. Maybe it is the same tank, but it isn't something that has only happened once.

These days that I do raiding to take it easy... Because expect LESS of me in raids.

Maybe I just have especially bad luck, but what you are doing is essentially looking at a blind person and pointing at a crosswalk with no sound device and telling them, "Oh, the normal way is to cross the street when you see the walking symbol."

Or telling some kid in extreme poverty who is obviously malnourished that normally, people just eat when they are hungry.

You are putting your own situation in front instead of considering the other person's situation.

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I do have sharing turned off for most of my hotbars with the exceptions of stuff I use for every class.

Thing is, I don't want just a "workaround" (Even though what I want kind of counts as a workaround) since I want to actually be able to full control exactly what happens. It is why I make macros like:

/ac "Stone II"
/ac "Stone"
/ac "Divine Seal"

/ac "Stone"
/ac "Virus"

/ac "Aero II"
/ac "Aero"
/ac "Holy"

/ac "Aero"
/ac "Presence of Mind"

(These change from time to time)


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To above: I see several issues with your macros.

Example: wait 0.7 translates to wait 1. Wait 1.5 should translate to wait 2 (or it might be wait 1, been a while).

And yeah, I already use stuff like that aside from the chain skills since as I mentioned before, I not only need skills to go off in a specific order, I need them done fast and I need to be able to force a skill to happen at a specific time before the full chain if needed.

That is also why it is actually an advantage for me to use macros-no queue. That means I can use a non-macro if I want a queue and a macro if I don't want the queue.

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Again, NOT the point of the topic. This topic is NOT about me. This topic is about how it would make sense to be able to use the text commands to do certain things with a keyboard that you could do with a mouse.

[DoctorPepper]

I have to agree with PArcher here..

I play i88 scholar all the time and I beat extreme primals and Turn 5 no problem with it. In an expert dungeon all you ever need to do is put your pet on obey, cast eye for eye at the start of the fight, spam physic/aldo (i only use aldo every 2-3 cures), and get your fairy to cure when you're global cooldown is active. Some people also macro Physic/Embrace into the same ability putting physic first so that if you spam the button your fairy will always try to embrace your target while you're on gcd.

Rarely do I even need to use my actual fairy skills and when I do I typically pop rouse and put it in sic (the lazy method) then put her back into obey after the abilities are popped. Even if you do manually control her abilities you should ALWAYS try and use them off the global cooldown so that your actual heals are not impacted by trying to control your fairy. Off the top of my head the only fight that generally Requires me to place my fairy is Turn 5 to stack it for fireballs.

Two bars should be more than enough for scholar, if you have a good tank they'll pop cooldowns at the start of a SR pull so that you can shadow flare and get your dots bane to multiple targets, aside from that toss miasma 2 occasionally and let the dps do the work. If you're doing all that and people are bitching at you about it then you're not the problem, I assure you.

Again, NOT the point of the topic. This topic is NOT about me. This topic is about how it would make sense to be able to use the text commands to do certain things with a keyboard that you could do with a mouse.

In regards to this, I just don't see why you would ever need it. Sure it would be a quality of life change and there's nothing wrong with that but I don't think many people would care about this particular thing because you can play every job efficiently without it and that's been proven.

[Laraul]

In regards to this, I just don't see why you would ever need it. Sure it would be a quality of life change and there's nothing wrong with that but I don't think many people would care about this particular thing because you can play every job efficiently without it and that's been proven.

You can play every job efficiently without a mouse or keyboard even! I mean why would you EVER even need those? Can't understand why the game even supports them?

Seriously though. Just because you may not understand how or why a person wants a particular feature doesn't mean it won't provide valid functionality improving the gaming experience. You don't HAVE to use the /crosshotbar command after all. So if you don't think you need it, then don't use it. Just please try not tell others what you think is and is not necessary for them.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

In regards to this, I just don't see why you would ever need it. Sure it would be a quality of life change and there's nothing wrong with that but I don't think many people would care about this particular thing because you can play every job efficiently without it and that's been proven.

>< actually if just want to add parameters of instead only [action cmd] and also add variety of [main cmd][pet cmd][companion cmd]

it would be very usefull instead of just [action cmd]

[Gnova]

I have a super slow reaction speed to the point that I essentially have no reaction speed. I make up for that via macros and preset actions. It is why I've fallen asleep in dungeons and managed to keep the party alive while asleep. (And not only in FF14, but other games as well-including games with more dynamic dungeons). Because I can simply preset a bunch of actions and I'll keep doing them even while asleep.

While I can sympathize with your circumstance it sounds like you are asking to have commands put into the game that will allow people to more easily bot. The only way I could see what you are talking about working would be if you are, at the very least, using a G15 type keyboard and building keystroke macros.