ilvl Requirement "The Broken System"

[sheepysheepy]

only need to lock accessories to their classes and the problems pretty much over
vit is arguably useful to everyone, so maybe allow whm to equip mnd or vit and blm to equip int or vit etc

[Alistaire]

What do you feel the issue is?

Yeah I'd love to see how the team came up with thinking a person in all i90's execpt for an i100 ring and an i55 weapon contributes as much as someone in all i90's, an i100 weapon, and 1 i55 ring.

[Marowit]

Hello,

There are currently no plans to change the method for averaging item levels as the team feels that this is not the real issue.

While in some cases players may be wearing lower level equipment for spiritbonding purposes, we understand that there are cases where players are not spiritbonding and acting in ways only to cause trouble for others. We’d like players to report anyone who is behaving inappropriately within dungeons or in general.

Since the newest patch has all but required everyone to start SBing, can we please get some clarifications on what's allowed and what's considered just causing trouble for others? This is a pretty debatable topic with views ranging from a few pieces being ok to a full set of CP/GP gear being acceptable as long as the item level requirement is met. I know I've personally reported varying ranges of people SBing gear and have gotten different replies based on how much the person was wearing and what type it was. so some clarification about what's acceptable and what's reportable would be really nice because at this point based on my own thread about this subject I can easily foresee people walking in with full GP/CP or offclass gear because no one except a few members of the community such as myself have said it's wrong. So these potentially offending players have just told us to shove it because you SE haven't said anything about what's ok and what isn't . So hopefully before the servers come up please give us some clarification before people start running wild and potentially reporting each other for that which may or may not be against the rules

[Celebcarca]

And if wearing lower level or offclass gear for Spiritbonding is now not acceptable at all, during Dungeons. I am really going to consider quitting and only coming back for patch months. .

I'm just trying to wrap some logic around this...Why exactly is it that people who want to SB can't do so in PF and get 3 other people with the same intent? If you don't build it in party finder where you set the conditions, then majority rules---or at least, that's the way it should be.

[KingOfAbyss]

I think we still see fully geared peeps that still dies to the mechanics of some trials, where some undergeared can complete it.

Same for yesterday that my FC mate was doing 2 Healer's job cause the other WHM kept on dying.

If you can't dodge, even with full gear iLvl150, you will still die.

For the accessories, a ring with STR can have VIT as well. It has 'some' uses. If some are using it to boost their iLvl to enter and if you clear it, where is the problem?

Like artifact gear that is specific to some jobs, I wouldn't mind if they did the same with accessories.

As for spiritbonding, I think the same applies: accessories for the appropriate job. and If with it you can clear the Event, where is the harm?

*let's wait for some fixes in patch 4.0

[Diavolo]

Gear level won't help someone if they just aren't good at dodging and whatnot, but onto my main point: I find it funny that people are complaining about ilevel now when you guys wanted dungeons to have the requirements in the first place. Guess there's no pleasing people.

[HeroSamson]

I think people are making excuses when they lose and blame it on others, it can never be them, it has to be the person with crappy gear so they begin checking everyone and singling them out, then that person is automatically trolling or ruining the game or the game is broken.

"I can't win, oh well let me blame someone else" "its not me I have all the best gear"

Reminds me of when I was doing garuda extreme I was killing the both the garuda doubles and main tank still seemed to die and he says "I advice you all to watch the video"

clearly I watched everyone do it correctly split them apart kill second but he dies whm curing perfect, he gets upset and leaves, was his fault for running outside of the circle each time, just because someone has good gear doesn't mean you are good, anyone can dress like a pro wrestler but you are not one.

[Bizniztyme]

Yeah I'd love to see how the team came up with thinking a person in all i90's execpt for an i100 ring and an i55 weapon contributes as much as someone in all i90's, an i100 weapon, and 1 i55 ring.

According to that other thread, gear doesnt matter as long as you know how to dance.

[Pebe]

They can't just do straight istat. Take warrior for example. Some warriors do play with full vit, power to them, but me and my friends prefer our warrior in his strength set. He is still fully capable of tanking any dungeon in full strength, and pulls out really good dps numbers for a tank. If he tried to solo queue he would be forced into his vit set for alot of content, although he could just change mid run. There in lies another problem. If we were doing istat, I could just jump on my sch full mind set, and then insinde the dungeon just switch to spiritbinding. To be honest, both the ilvl and istat requirements are irrelevant as long as you can change gear in instances. In my opinion they are just gates meant as guidelines. I'm pretty sure I could kill all of the extremes far below the ilvl suggested and especially the coil turns, as they were first cleared at far lower ilvls on release.

[Daniolaut]

Hello,

There are currently no plans to change the method for averaging item levels as the team feels that this is not the real issue.


While in some cases players may be wearing lower level equipment for spiritbonding purposes, we understand that there are cases where players are not spiritbonding and acting in ways only to cause trouble for others. We’d like players to report anyone who is behaving inappropriately within dungeons or in general.

I clarified my post a bit. Thanks for the suggestion!

you may want to clarify your post before people think its OK to report people for spiritbonding. i was able to make sense of it but this post is already being misintepreted in other threads by people who think it is now ok to vote kick/report people for spiritbonding

Maybe it would be sensible to put more wolfs back in Natalan wolf camp and add more mobs in other places such as the Mines in Outer La Noscea etc and there will be no people trying to Spiritbond inside dungeons, a place where you should be properly geared and focusing on gearing and obtaining tomes instead of spiritbonding to get your Novus or melding your DoH jobs?

Please dont create issues, please bring back proper places for things that are now are in high demand. Thank you.