ilvl Requirement "The Broken System"

[Nomad-phx]

my only gripe with ilvl boosting is when dps or healers i examine in dungeons are using inappropriate gear for their class like fending accessories just so they can qualify for the ilvl requirement of party finders or certain duties.

[sheepysheepy]

only need to lock accessories to their classes and the problems pretty much over
vit is arguably useful to everyone, so maybe allow whm to equip mnd or vit and blm to equip int or vit etc

[KingOfAbyss]

I think we still see fully geared peeps that still dies to the mechanics of some trials, where some undergeared can complete it.

Same for yesterday that my FC mate was doing 2 Healer's job cause the other WHM kept on dying.

If you can't dodge, even with full gear iLvl150, you will still die.

For the accessories, a ring with STR can have VIT as well. It has 'some' uses. If some are using it to boost their iLvl to enter and if you clear it, where is the problem?

Like artifact gear that is specific to some jobs, I wouldn't mind if they did the same with accessories.

As for spiritbonding, I think the same applies: accessories for the appropriate job. and If with it you can clear the Event, where is the harm?

*let's wait for some fixes in patch 4.0

[Diavolo]

Gear level won't help someone if they just aren't good at dodging and whatnot, but onto my main point: I find it funny that people are complaining about ilevel now when you guys wanted dungeons to have the requirements in the first place. Guess there's no pleasing people.

[HeroSamson]

I think people are making excuses when they lose and blame it on others, it can never be them, it has to be the person with crappy gear so they begin checking everyone and singling them out, then that person is automatically trolling or ruining the game or the game is broken.

"I can't win, oh well let me blame someone else" "its not me I have all the best gear"

Reminds me of when I was doing garuda extreme I was killing the both the garuda doubles and main tank still seemed to die and he says "I advice you all to watch the video"

clearly I watched everyone do it correctly split them apart kill second but he dies whm curing perfect, he gets upset and leaves, was his fault for running outside of the circle each time, just because someone has good gear doesn't mean you are good, anyone can dress like a pro wrestler but you are not one.

[Cherie]

I see people getting around the ilevel requirements for turn 1 a lot. There is one in almost every duty finder pug.

I'm not talking about people doing it to be malicious, they are just being lazy. I'm talking about people with full i90 right side for the wrong class and then maybe the quest af on the left side. Sometimes they didn't bother to get the chest piece and are wearing a pink drop of some kind... (so they don't have all their skills learned probably).

So what this would be is like a healer with all bard accessories for example. As mentioned by the OP, having half i90 gear of the wrong class would mean that you only need i50ish gear for the other half.

Honestly I don't really even care what other people do. I only start looking like if the healer can't keep the tank alive, then I notice they are in half bard gear and go: "Oh..." Besides annoying the group by setting the group up for failure, they are just making things harder on themselves.... "Group Jump Rope" can be more difficult if one jumper isn't going to be able to even jump.

[Darra]

I've been spiritbonding as a scholar for months in dungeons, crafting, gathering, DOW accessories, and I've never wiped a group. It wasn't until I first came across this thread a few days back that I got kicked for spiritbonding at the last boss in Brayflox, with no deaths or anything said. I find the attitudes of so many people in this game, and on this forum to be disgusting; rather than ask for the person not to spiritbond, or better yet, leave them to it and only comment if they're clearly causing problems, a lot of people seem to be in the mind to kick first and then whine on the forums, or just quit the group, then whine on the forums. Newsflash Brayflox et all have an ilvl requirement of 55, if someone in the group is ilvl 60 and not spiritbonding, will you kick them too?! If you want to run the whole dungeons in under 15 minutes, make a pre-made group, don't expect DF players to abide by "your" rules and don't expect them to be as "good" as you.

[Yumi_umi]

You call em out only when they start causing noticeable problems.
You don't call em out just because u clicked examine.
Also in a 4 man party there are only 2 dps. Sooo imo a lot of ppl in this thread thinking the whole " now i have to do 2 ppl's job " ideal is a dps. So funny cuz unless if it's CM PM or some of the early coil turns, you must be crazy to SB in DF for EX primals or t5.