ilvl Requirement "The Broken System"

[Riko_Futatabi]

Thats the exact result of a system where gearscore is calculated by item levels rather than actual total bonus "power" that comes from the items.

Clearly we need Vegeta on the case then.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Clearly we need Vegeta on the case then.

So much this.

[Umero]

Thats the exact result of a system where gearscore is calculated by item levels rather than actual total bonus "power" that comes from the items.

SO true./10char

[alhandra]

Hello,

There are currently no plans to change the method for averaging item levels as the team feels that this is not the real issue.

While in some cases players may be wearing lower level equipment for spiritbonding purposes, we understand that there are cases where players are doing this only to cause trouble for others. We’d like players to report anyone who is behaving inappropriately within dungeons or in general.

you may want to clarify your post before people think its OK to report people for spiritbonding. i was able to make sense of it but this post is already being misintepreted in other threads by people who think it is now ok to vote kick/report people for spiritbonding

[Camate]

you may want to clarify your post before people think its OK to report people for spiritbonding. i was able to make sense of it but this post is already being misintepreted in other threads by people who think it is now ok to vote kick/report people for spiritbonding

I clarified my post a bit. Thanks for the suggestion!

[Highlanderx]

Hello,

There are currently no plans to change the method for averaging item levels as the team feels that this is not the real issue.

While in some cases players may be wearing lower level equipment for spiritbonding purposes, we understand that there are cases where players are doing this only to cause trouble for others. We’d like players to report anyone who is behaving inappropriately within dungeons or in general.

Then your team needs to go back a rethink things.

A straight average system is broken, since gear that gives lots of Def/MDef and accessories that only give +1/+1 are not equal in terms of being able to complete higher level content. While most of the Examples for the system being broken, in this thread are blatant attempts at trolling/harassment and if seen should be reported like you say. Using the Free AF job quest gear + GC weapon + ilevel 90 accessories, will get you into almost all content, without you having enough Def/MDef to survive it and its the most likely upgrade path that new people will follow, since their accessories will be the most lacking due to not being given any from quests rewards.

And if wearing lower level or offclass gear for Spiritbonding is now not acceptable at all, during Dungeons. I am really going to consider quitting and only coming back for patch months. At least the way I do it anyway, that is only some right side accessories while having my other equipped gear(right class) be so over-ileveled that I still meet the ilevel requirements for the Dungeon with nothing equipped in those spots. Since really the only things left in the game for me to do is farm dungeons for vanity, finish gearing up my crafters and atma farm. And I can't stand atma farming anymore, going on 25+ hours without a drop, Really who ever thought of having a Quest involve RNG in any way, should no longer be allowed to design quests. There never should be the possibility of never being able to complete a Quest.

[Celebcarca]

And if wearing lower level or offclass gear for Spiritbonding is now not acceptable at all, during Dungeons. I am really going to consider quitting and only coming back for patch months. .

I'm just trying to wrap some logic around this...Why exactly is it that people who want to SB can't do so in PF and get 3 other people with the same intent? If you don't build it in party finder where you set the conditions, then majority rules---or at least, that's the way it should be.

[Airget]

Hello,

There are currently no plans to change the method for averaging item levels as the team feels that this is not the real issue.

While in some cases players may be wearing lower level equipment for spiritbonding purposes, we understand that there are cases where players are not spiritbonding and acting in ways only to cause trouble for others. We’d like players to report anyone who is behaving inappropriately within dungeons or in general.

The issue of ilevel comes from it's inaccuracy. A healer could be wearing all i100 accessories but they are all STR which means those accessories do nothing to help their job and in fact makes them only an ilevel worthy of whatever they muster from the rest of their gear.

The best perspective to give would be this.

If a healer wearing weapon/head/body/legs/feet/waist all of i100 were fit for them but wearing 2 rings/earrings/wrist/neck pieces that were all STR and if all the gear was i100 then technically if you cut out the useless gear that does nothing for them they are ilevel 54 because the accesories they are using do not provide anything useful for their job/services they are relying purely on their main gear for attributes.

What the Dev team should try to look into is not an ilevel but rather an istat based on the job being used. Rather than saying oh it's ok if you are using i100 gear even with STR gear that does nothing for yout job it should be oh you need mnd 500 to be able to do this and to obtain mnd 500 you just need i70 full gear that provides mnd for that job.

That's where the problem lies because if a player enters an instance say a healer and they aren't using a full set of mnd gear but they are still seen as irequired then they are hurting the party because in reality they aren't properly geared for the event.

[Pebe]

They can't just do straight istat. Take warrior for example. Some warriors do play with full vit, power to them, but me and my friends prefer our warrior in his strength set. He is still fully capable of tanking any dungeon in full strength, and pulls out really good dps numbers for a tank. If he tried to solo queue he would be forced into his vit set for alot of content, although he could just change mid run. There in lies another problem. If we were doing istat, I could just jump on my sch full mind set, and then insinde the dungeon just switch to spiritbinding. To be honest, both the ilvl and istat requirements are irrelevant as long as you can change gear in instances. In my opinion they are just gates meant as guidelines. I'm pretty sure I could kill all of the extremes far below the ilvl suggested and especially the coil turns, as they were first cleared at far lower ilvls on release.

[Daniolaut]

Hello,

There are currently no plans to change the method for averaging item levels as the team feels that this is not the real issue.


While in some cases players may be wearing lower level equipment for spiritbonding purposes, we understand that there are cases where players are not spiritbonding and acting in ways only to cause trouble for others. We’d like players to report anyone who is behaving inappropriately within dungeons or in general.

I clarified my post a bit. Thanks for the suggestion!

you may want to clarify your post before people think its OK to report people for spiritbonding. i was able to make sense of it but this post is already being misintepreted in other threads by people who think it is now ok to vote kick/report people for spiritbonding

Maybe it would be sensible to put more wolfs back in Natalan wolf camp and add more mobs in other places such as the Mines in Outer La Noscea etc and there will be no people trying to Spiritbond inside dungeons, a place where you should be properly geared and focusing on gearing and obtaining tomes instead of spiritbonding to get your Novus or melding your DoH jobs?

Please dont create issues, please bring back proper places for things that are now are in high demand. Thank you.