This game is forcing me to speed run, more and more

[Dimitrias]

It's so many dungeons now. Most DF groups I get anymore end up becoming a speed run. High level and even low level dungeons now. Most of those groups the tank doesn't even mention it. He just runs ahead and starts grabbing everthing, while I just follow and wait for him to stop.

So I'm forced to just use the PF and try to manually set up parties for normal runs any more.

Doesn't that go against what Yoshi wanted? I mean DF is there to reduce the wait times, but you end up with people that don't want to do the content the same way as you do a lot of the times.

Speed running everything, is really starting to kill this game for me.


PS. I know I could always play a tank, but that is seriously not my style of play, and don't wana be forced to tank either.

[Pyreflye]

but you end up with people that don't want to do the content the same way as you do a lot of the times.

...Did you really expect any different?

[Zoalord]

I was PLD and I met a dragoon who starts to pull all mobs for speed run

the healer and I just decided to let him die and he eventually left coz he never said anything about speed running the dungeon

and we did speed run after a blm joined us.

[StubHub]

Doesn't that go against what Yoshi wanted? I mean DF is there to reduce the wait times, but you end up with people that don't want to do the content the same way as you do a lot of the times.

Yes, it's there to reduce wait times for people who can not, or choose not to preform full party. It is not there to ensure the dungeon is run in the manner one would like. If you have any expectations for the manner in which the run should be done when you DF you're causing yourself added frustration.

I personally would rather speed run when i DF/Roullette. It's not possible when many times there's a tank with around the same HP as my BLM i joined as. I suck it up, and run how the group wants to run, and so should you from the opposite side of the fence. Or as you said. Make a PF.

[Ruri]

Why would you not want to complete a dungeon quickly?

[NintenPyjak64]

Joined a DR Brayflox HM as WHM. I requested we didn't do Speed Run sized pulls and that's how the dungeon proceeded. If you don't ask [before people take action]you won't recieve

[Nicobo]

Not sure how to satify as a "speed run" ^^;
but according to dungeon design, there is a time limit counter so it imples to complete it asap?
IMO "fast complete award" should be added bcoz faster completion definitely is a better result in accordance with the time limit counter design.

[Spoekes]

Not sure how to satify as a "speed run" ^^;
but according to dungeon design, there is a time limit counter so it imples to complete it asap?
IMO "fast complete award" should be added bcoz faster completion definitely is a better result in accordance with the time limit counter design.

I am for Speedruns but taking the 90 minute time limit counter as an arguement for that is like taking 10 minutes to run 100 meters for a challange

[sheepysheepy]

it's just how the game evolved.. this is like moaning that resident evil FORCES you to kill zombies /headdesk

[LalaRu]

You cannot put on the game the behavior of people.

Anyway, I'm now starting to do exp roulette with my brand-new whm, I just tell the tank I'm gearing and he pack less mobs accordly. Run were speedy anyway, just the 40s extra for pulling 3 packs instead of usual 2 (or 1, if everyone i90+) before boss.

Edit: the run need be slowed anyway, if DF makes a setup without AoE dps. Packing more mobs is only more pressure to healer but don't change anything on completion speed.