Common sense when positioning monsters

[Ashkendor]

The OP just found out the difference between a random dummy trying to get past the queue fast switching to tank job and a real tank knowing his job.

I wholeheartedly agree with you though.. Too few tanks out there who know their job.. And those who do usually dont queue random but take a premade instead with people they know.

Eh, I always queue random for daily (70 soldiery for doing one dungeon is too good to pass up). Even when I do other dungeons, it's usually with 1 or even two members of my FC, so we get at least one random. I get plenty of commendations, so either people are being REALLY generous or I'm doing a decent enough job. :3

You all sound as if you have experience of these roles but have forgotten what it's like to be learning the ropes. As a'noob' with a tank role I've listened to the huffing and puffing during dungeon levels because I misjudged my role. Did you get your roles right first time or has it been a learning experience too? I've had one guy say if I don't know how to grab hate from a group I shouldn't have spec'd a tank. It sounds like something any of you here would say. If you want to be elitist put some kind of dumb entrance exam in your FC, take it seriously to the point of being anally retentive. Kill the joy. How about offering guidance to these people instead of talking like their actions are oh so tedious. Part of the challenge of these games is in learning how to get on with others. Sometimes you mmorpg vets need to get over yourselves and remember where you started. The FF world is full of mixed levels and abilities and most things, by the way, only become common sense with practise.

When I talk about people obviously not knowing what they're doing, I'm talking about high levels that should know better than to leave a line or cone AOE casting mob aimed at their DPS and healer. I'm sorry, but by mid to high level you should have the basics of your class down. I can see your point if you're talking about something like Copperbell Mines. The whole point of those low level dungeons is to learn your role. When you have a tank that (for example) repeatedly leaves a Valefor with its ass end aimed at the DPS in CT though (Tail Drive one-shots most of them, so it should be pretty obvious after the first time that's something that you shouldn't do), obviously this is someone that either doesn't care to know their role or jumped in without having a clue.