mmorpg's review

[Delsus]

lol, What kind of idiot reviews a game one week before it gets overhauled. Regardless of whether you agree with him or not, he should be fired for incompetence..

Dont say that on mmorpg thats what I got a ban for because it was apparently trolling

[Jynx]

Dont say that on mmorpg thats what I got a ban for because it was apparently trolling

Well technically it IS trolling, it may be a rather correct assesment but it does far less to add to the conversation than just stating that it's.

"Odd"
To post this review just now.

[Delsus]

Well technically it IS trolling, it may be a rather correct assesment but it does far less to add to the conversation than just stating that it's.

"Odd"
To post this review just now.

I wouldnt call it trolling because its stating a fact, I just put it down to mmorpg.com being corrupt, sent em an email see what they say lol (prolly be a perma-ban knowing them) kinda funny that my account was temp banned after a few hrs lol

[Arlekiel]

Hello,

This is my first post on the forums and hopefully I wont be stepping into a flame war here X_X.

Tbh I was one of those people who watched the game trailer over and over, who bought the collectors edition box, and was desperatly waiting for the box to arrive just to play FFXIV. I was in a guild who started in certain forum, that LS got full the first day.

One month later the LS died, and 90% of the people I knew went poof. Of course I went poof also. My last moment in the game was the event with the bells (samurai one). After that, with my broken heart I left the game. Nevertheless I have continued checking the Lodestone webpage EVERYSINGLE DAY.. Hoping that the game improves. I think the game has great potential.

I remember two weeks ago, I was kinda "loosing hope" about the game (since I didnt saw any BIG change into the patch notes), so I decided to enter and test those small changes by myself. Have to admit ... I LOVE THEM. I remember I fought a star marmot and I was impressed because the camera angle rotated in a weird way that made the whole experience a "movie". It was like playing a whole movie.

With that said... I do not think the review from mmorpg isnt that "unfair" or "biasd" .... to be honest I think is accurate. (Before somene rages here... LOL) let me put this into some points:

1)The review is accurate by the time it was reviewed. You can say that 1.18 is going to change everything but "you dont know that" I mean you dont know if things are going to be better or worst. You dont know if tanaka is going to delay part of the patch for future testing. You dont know really how big of a change its going to be. Maybe they give us 1.18a or 1.18b. You can even argue that its already said on the lodestone by official anouncement. But bottom line is that until its served on the table you cant say if its good or bad. Also about it being released about 3 days before 1.18... lets be honest here there isnt such thing as a "good time" to review an mmo like FFXIV. Because he release it one month from here then ppl would be like "wait until 1.19" and so on. Truth here is that everyone has been hoping the the next patch is the "big one"....

2)The reviews are usually not "written and published right away" even if he just played for 15 minutes or so... He did nailed some stuff there. Tbh I felt the same "playing an alpha or beta game" thing about the game, and im sure that my ex LS felt the same way, otherwise they wouldnt have left. The game its not in its best moment... thats a reality. If some people enjoy it or not its another thing.

3)In his review he states that if the game changes he will make another review for it. Im just saying... if 1.18 is going the "big one" and the game improves and it gets better in three months or so. Then im all for it to go and flame war at mmorpg forums. But at least, even if its just for 3 days, lets give him the benefit of the doubt. After all we are doing the same thing with FFXIV, we are giving SE the benfit of the doubt and we are hoping that the 1.18 is going to improve the game (when in reality we rlly dont know). So lets be fair and give the same benefit of the doubt to mmorpg and hope they make a new review after the game improves . Afterall if ppl start a flame war at mmrpg forums, TODAY they are right... TODAY the review is accurate. We cant argue with stuff like "in three days.." or "in the future this game is going to"... because we dont know that. They cant review a game based on what we believe this game is going to be in the future.



With that said....

In my opinion the worst poison for this game is precisely the bad "reputation" it has. It even won a big golden poop, and it won the biggest disapointment of the year. With that said... weird enough when a game has a good reputation/reviews everyone plays it.

Its kinda funny for me, to hear reviews about other games... like Eden Eternal (tbh im kinda playing that game right now). And its a GRINDFEST lol... They have the same quest over and over and the craft system is mediocre (its literally none, since all the crafting is being made by an NPC). But it has good reviews. Weird enough you see that the same company who publish the game has some paid advertisements on those webpages.

Obviously when a an advertiser is getting its game reviewed its going to get a decent score, it dosent matter if the game itself is bad.

Unfair= yes... but the unfairness goes towards those games. And even if they give more points to rift, wow, or eden eternal... more then they deserve at the end that unfairness is being towards those games. In the end all the other games (90%? maybe) are being reviewed with under the same standards (and that incluides ffxiv). You can call it unprofesional jounralism.. but in reality thats how every single newspaper works. The people who buy ads, the sponsors, the advertisers they get good reviews and good notes.... In the end if you want to disqualify mmorpg "review" because of lack of profesionalism, you have to disqualify every single newspaper. In the end we are human beings and its imposible for us to give a 100% unbiased opinion.

Well those are my two cents. Hope it helps X_X and I hope I dont step into a flame war here


Btw hello my ign name is Arlekiel Dukiel, fabul server and I hope to join again ffxiv when 1.18 comes live. Im still hoping this game gets good

[Abriael]

Well technically it IS trolling, it may be a rather correct assesment but it does far less to add to the conversation than just stating that it's.

Actually the definition of trolling is to post on a forum with the sole intent of stirring controversy.

Posting solid criticism to a review does not really fit into any definition of trolling. Actually, the review itself fits in the definition of trolling more than what anyone posted on the forums.

[Delsus]

Hello,

This is my first post on the forums and hopefully I wont be stepping into a flame war here X_X.

Tbh I was one of those people who watched the game trailer over and over, who bought the collectors edition box, and was desperatly waiting for the box to arrive just to play FFXIV. I was in a guild who started in certain forum, that LS got full the first day.

One month later the LS died, and 90% of the people I knew went poof. Of course I went poof also. My last moment in the game was the event with the bells (samurai one). After that, with my broken heart I left the game. Nevertheless I have continued checking the Lodestone webpage EVERYSINGLE DAY.. Hoping that the game improves. I think the game has great potential.

I remember two weeks ago, I was kinda "loosing hope" about the game (since I didnt saw any BIG change into the patch notes), so I decided to enter and test those small changes by myself. Have to admit ... I LOVE THEM. I remember I fought a star marmot and I was impressed because the camera angle rotated in a weird way that made the whole experience a "movie". It was like playing a whole movie.

With that said... I do not think the review from mmorpg isnt that "unfair" or "biasd" .... to be honest I think is accurate. (Before somene rages here... LOL) let me put this into some points:

1)The review is accurate by the time it was reviewed. You can say that 1.18 is going to change everything

took most of your post so mine isnt too big, we arent saying that the review is wrong, we are saying it shouldnt have been released now, after 1.18 and checking those changes a review would be acceptable, as soon as it was announced they should have got their reviewer to prepare for the patch and post the review after they tried the new things out.

Also we dont like them saying official reviews are rumours.

Welcome to the forums, hope you dont get flamed too much

[Delsus]

Actually the definition of trolling is to post on a forum with the sole intent of stirring controversy.

Posting solid criticism to a review does not really fit into any definition of trolling. Actually, the review itself fits in the definition of trolling more than what anyone posted on the forums.

^^ This, i'll just give them my 2 cents tomorrow when my ban has been lifted lol perma ban will be inc if they saw what we said as trolling.

[Abriael]

A few points

1)The review is accurate by the time it was reviewed.

Aside from the fact that the review is chocked full of hyperbole, which pretty much voids the "accurate" part. The time the review has been published is the biggest issue. Publishing a review that you *know* will be inaccurate and misleading in four days is very, very poor journalism. Or maybe something else.

2)The reviews are usually not "written and published right away"

This isn't print gaming journalism. This is the internet. Even counting some reasonable time for proofreading and publishing, no review should need more than a day or two before being put online. If a site needs more than that, then it's simply inefficient and run by incompetents, deserving all the criticism they get.

even if he just played for 15 minutes or so... He did nailed some stuff there. Tbh I felt the same "playing an alpha or beta game" thing about the game, and im sure that my ex LS felt the same way, otherwise they wouldnt have left. The game its not in its best moment... thats a reality. If some people enjoy it or not its another thing.

All it takes is reading a couple forums to "nail some stuff". A journalist with any integrity has the duty to play and experience the game for himself for enough time to form a realistic opinion. The screenshots and the content of the article show me that the "writer" here didn't.

3)In his review he states that if the game changes he will make another review for it.

All the more reason NOT to post a review that's going to be irrelevant and misleading soon. Just wait for the changes that you KNOW (and if you don't know you simply shouldn't be a gaming writer) are coming, and then post a *relevant* review after. Easy Peasy.
Did you actually write the review months before and you're afraid to waste it? Well. Though luck.

Again. The first duty of a gaming journalist is to inform (and not mislead) their readers. In this this review simply fails radically.

[Joeking]

Aside from the fact that the review is chocked full of hyperbole, which pretty much voids the "accurate" part. The time the review has been published is the biggest issue. Publishing a review that you [SIZE="7"]*know*[/SIZE] will be inaccurate and misleading in four days is very, very poor journalism. Or maybe something else.

We don't know.. If the current track record is anything to go by disappoint will ensue thus making this review valid for past, present and future.

[Abriael]

We don't know.. If the current track record is anything to go by disappoint will ensue thus making this review valid for past, present and future.

We DO know that there's going to be a sizable amount of additional content in the game compared to now. Also, we do know that combat is going to be factually different.

Better or worse has no relevance to that fact. The fact is that the game is going to be *different* turning this "review" into an irrelevant heap of ill-conceived hyperbole.