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    Svaltus's Avatar
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    Celestial Guillotine
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    Astrologian Lv 70

    whos at fault here?

    at the lost city of amdapor

    i was healing for a dungeon, and the tank is grabbing everything in sight, so when his health gets too low i cure or cure II if the situation calls for it, because his health does go low when hes pulling THAT much, and then during battle i'm healing him with cure II because hes takeing so much damage, other people are takeing damage too, so to avoid having to cast cure on everyone one at a time, i use medica II because i need that time to cast esuna on everyone to remove poisen, i also keep regen on the tank because again hes takeing damage and his health is dropping like crazy, and also he cant hold the aggro so the enemies are attacking other players, not just me.
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    Bunni Stormjaeger
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Um...
    ...
    If I translated that properly, probably the tank? What about Cure III?

    ...what about Zoidberg?!
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 60
    I think there's a bit of fault to go around to everyone. Was a speedrun discussed at the start? The tank say anything at all? Did anyone say anything at all beyond "Hi"? If not then the tank made a stupid assumption based on the gear he saw or just blindly speedran because that's his normal. THAT is on him. Now the DPS...they were taking damage. Were they eating avoidable AoEs? Were they pulling hate? If either one of those is true then the DPS carry blame too. On your end I see inexperience. In that situation I can see why you would hit Medica II but the more correct action there was Cure III. Esuna the tank only and Cure I and II through it for yourself and the DPS. Medica/Medica II and Regen on mass pulls like that will ALWAYS get you killed as a healer since you get enmity increases EVERY time the regen tics on Regen and Medica II.
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    Svaltus's Avatar
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Thanks for the advice and constructive criticism , i will definitely start prioritizing cure III over regen and medica II, i can not speak for the dps, but the tank was rushing in there.
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    Legacy Wolfwood
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    imo as a whm main, just pop divine seal before you cast med2 and regen on tank, or use it to buff your cure 2 nuke healing. cure 3 isnt good if the dps (and yourself) is too far from the healing focus target. med 1 should be fine. If you have eye for an eye, use that on the tank to help a bit. also Presence Of Mind helps. bene if tank gets too low and you may not save them. during a bug pull in speed runs i tend to ignore status effects if my healing can overpower it and/or its more of a priority. you should be able to cure overpower cure poison. normally stuns on the tank is the only thing i try to put above everything. so a quick and smart timed esuna once you get close to topping a tank is best.
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    Staris's Avatar
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    Staris Fate
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    Just warn the tank next time that healing is your offspec. So don't pull too much.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Svaltus View Post
    i need that time to cast esuna on everyone to remove poisen
    No, you don't.
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    A'linhbo Taqah
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Just warn the tank next time that healing is your offspec. So don't pull too much.
    Unfortunately, that tends to not work in high level dungeons...too many people want the big pulls for speedruns.
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    Sheepy Sheepy
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    did the group wipe, or was it just a bit hard for you..

    in first case, try to improve or accept that it wasn't possible
    in latter case, suck it up and enjoy the challenge
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    Luna Nattvind
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    It is always the DPS's fault, ALWAYS! That is the first thing you get to learn in MMO's. It is ALWAYS the DPS's fault. Ask any tank. XD Whenever they screw up it is the fault of the DPS.

    Honestly though, it is a tank issue. If pulls are too big it is a tank issue for not asking how big pulls he should do.
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