"Paladin is not good for Brayflox"?

[Duuude007]

The big issue is PLD aggroholding.

Yes quelling strikes helps, but the key issue is the disparity between tank dps and actual DPS classes.

PLD has an almost imbalancing lack of strength at first with zenith/ clean slate atma, so upgrade priority should always be strength. (or get the levi weapon)

Once all 3 str upgrades are applied, enmity is loads easier. Once you upgrade to Animus? You have a lock, like in 2.1~

[OPneedNerfs]

TIL: There are still PLDs that don't sprint during pulls for SRs.

[Avalon_Albrook]

"Paladin is not good for Brayflox"

My LOLing. It's not stopping.

[LOLyYOUcryin]

These kinds of people are all over the place. I main a Summoner and queued with a WHM friend to do some SOLD runs to cap out. We get a PLD and a DRG. The PLD starts off by saying that since we aren't BLM's that we suck and our DPS is going to be lame. He pulled ... 1 mob at a time. (I'm i94) ... we let him die and kicked him. Then we got a new tank and promptly finished the rest of the instance in no time, which SUPER speed run pulls.

I am also tried of PF Bray runs with the only dps they want is a BLM ... Just because they can flare, doesn't mean they know how... and it also doesn't mean that they will be great dps etiher.... :/

i wish there were more smart smns on my server. most i run into dont even know when to use the right Egi. /sigh

[Akirakogami]

let me waddle around in pf for an hour so that i can save 3 minutes..

logic.

[Staris]

Well, even if you only save 1 minute per SR by having a warrior. Times that by 120 runs and you just saved 2 hours of your life. While you can do other things while looking for an ideal party.

More of the issue is tanks who can't play both tanking classes are usually less then ideal for min-maxing out the runs anyway. (Either through lack of effort, or lack of free time to improve oneself)

Also I'm not an impatient or anything, I did all my roulette every day too with random players, It is just if I am going to do a speed run, its either going to be the best setup I can make, or with my friends. Not even to save time, just for the fun of trying to beat the clock.

[TomTom1968]

Maybe he had a few bad Paladins who couldn't hold aggro. Otherwise PLD is just as good or maybe even better. HG and healer going bonkers with Cleric stance and Sanctus is awesome. :P The only ones who can really make a difference in the time the dungeon takes are melee DD. My fav combo is 2x BLM and DPS'ing healer. Fastest runs you can get.

[AlrikRouge]

Really?! Dang. I guess I should stop speed running this. I guess 6-7 minutes is really bad when I go in as PLD.

Sarcasm aside, I've seen more i75-i80 DPS and/or WHM paired up with PLD than WAR, so it very well could be bad experiences. And then the i92 WHM/SCH and i90 DPS get paired up with i90 WAR and they go "See? Much faster". Not taking into account the lower geared WHM and DPS and PLD they had been paired up with.

[yahhzoo]

Just started healing brayflox hm speed runs and I don't care if I am healing a paladin or warrior. They both have their strengths and weaknesses.

[Staris]

Really?! Dang. I guess I should stop speed running this. I guess 6-7 minutes is really bad when I go in as PLD.

Sarcasm aside, I've seen more i75-i80 DPS and/or WHM paired up with PLD than WAR, so it very well could be bad experiences. And then the i92 WHM/SCH and i90 DPS get paired up with i90 WAR and they go "See? Much faster". Not taking into account the lower geared WHM and DPS and PLD they had been paired up with.

unless your talking about full clears, yes that is bad.

4 minute runs.