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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    People also seem to assume SCH cannot do Speed run when I really don't have much issues
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    People also seem to assume SCH cannot do Speed run when I really don't have much issues
    SCHs rawk SRs! Dots, bane, Shadow flare, SCH healer lovin on my PLD is just nom!
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    Abyss King
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Like Lilyanna, I am tired of Brayflox Runs.. bec of the speed addicts.

    Granted, I too have to farm myth for my 6 Tomes.. a few more minutes will not kill me (or us)

    At least those who wants to complete it under 6 minutes will get their own party or PF it. whew!

    DFers, beware: I will state that it won't be a speed run (well, not as speedy as you'd like, bec no one's ever satisfied anyway)

    Can't wait what SE's will bring as dungeon on next patch, and myth/sol adjustments..

    Question: some peeps on Japanese Server been testing out killing smaller groups vs big pulls, making it irrelevant to speed run, and risking a wipe..

    Anyone can confirm with real numbers? Thank you.
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    Question: some peeps on Japanese Server been testing out killing smaller groups vs big pulls, making it irrelevant to speed run, and risking a wipe..

    Anyone can confirm with real numbers? Thank you.
    It's definitely slower breaking up the pulls.

    My first choice would be a WAR due to being able to use Overpower to do damage and keep threat, but in the grand scheme of things there's not a huge difference. I've had sub-6 min runs with both PLDs and WARs. It really comes down to the player controlling the character.
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    Bringer Ofpain
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    Diabolos
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    Fisher Lv 50
    my fastest time was with pld and whm. cause pld can drop hallowed ground at start, and whm can hit holy rotation (divine seal, regen, cleric, fastcast, holy, presence of mind, holy, holy, holy, holy). whoever said this got lucky and had a war with tidal wave axe once, made good time. whm can still do holy rotation with a war because it stun locks them. war has to have finger on trigger for holmgang, and a macro so whm knows how much time he has to hit benny, or there will be a wipe every now and then. only other reason i can think that he won't let pally join is if he's a scholar? 9 mobs on first pull might take too long to get dot's up for it to be worthwhile while healing. not dissing scholar though, the time lost on aoe phases can be made up for through dot's on boss fights, especially if the bard saves battle voice for them, and makes macro letting him know when it's going up. a bad scholar would insist on war i guess.
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    Lex Sunfire
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    people in this game are so worried about wasting their time that they waste time to avoid wasting time. noobs will be noobs.

    all that time that noob spent dropping from the dungeon, finding a new party, and getting back into bray... he could have been done with at least one speed run.
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    Last edited by LexSunfire; 05-14-2014 at 05:34 AM.

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    Vivi Enne
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    Tonberry
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    Culinarian Lv 66
    news just in;apparantly tank cannot tank
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    Lupus Lux
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    Lamia
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Burnunit View Post
    I know the Warrior can output more damage, but is it really the difference between a 6 and 10 minute run? I figured with a Paladin it would give the healer more luxury to DPS, so it balances out anyway right?

    I use both but prefer using WAR for the joy of spamming Overpower with cooldowns. That is also the best signature I've ever seen...anywhere.
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    Kyoreore Arisato
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I can't really holy spam as much as I would like to with a warrior. Whm can out dps a warrior in brayflox any day. So I'd rather take a pld imo.
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    The big issue is PLD aggroholding. This should however not be an issue if the DPS uses Quiveling Strikes or that they actually have any kind of gearcheck because I assume the DPS's was of the SR classes. This really should not be an issue.

    It should really not be an issue eighter if it is a SR group. I except pallies to be able to hold aggro then I smell a person who is bad at this game and want to blame failures on everything but themselves.
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    Last edited by Lunavi; 05-14-2014 at 08:07 AM.
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