the real problem with this game

[Dubont]

Grind spots baby. Just like the good old days

This is what I'm looking forward to...I just hope it happens soon

No people isnt actually the problem, its just the result of the the original problem, the game was a glorified alpha when we got it and everyone and their moms quit.

there are plenty of people (for the content we have) because Uldah, Horizon and BW are almost always packed with people...but none of them do anything...and none of them go anywhere else...

[Rentahamster]

there are plenty of people (for the content we have) because Uldah, Horizon and BW are almost always packed with people...but none of them do anything...and none of them go anywhere else...

Cause and effect...cause and effect.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-How-to-Fix-It

[Dubont]

Cause and effect...cause and effect.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-How-to-Fix-It

the problem still remains that there are areas AROUND ULDAH that no one ever goes to. My statement about Nophica is an example of this. There are leves there that are very good as well as a few good grind spots, yet no one ever goes there unless it is with a full party of LS members..

[Rentahamster]

the problem still remains that there are areas AROUND ULDAH that no one ever goes to. My statement about Nophica is an example of this. There are leves there that are very good as well as a few good grind spots, yet no one ever goes there unless it is with a full party of LS members..

Har? I explained why in that thread I made. Also, people go to Nophica Wells to do Levinshower. And no, there aren't any good grinding areas for mid ranks in Thanalan. Those are only in La Noscea and the Bladck Shroud (Efts).

Also, you can start doing Broken Water leves as early as rank 30 due to the leve star difficulty system.

[Xatsh]

the problem still remains that there are areas AROUND ULDAH that no one ever goes to. My statement about Nophica is an example of this. There are leves there that are very good as well as a few good grind spots, yet no one ever goes there unless it is with a full party of LS members..

Most my whole ls would be in that boat. soloing...well anything in this game is just not effective at all.

Group leves and grinds yield about 2 fold the sp you get in solo leves. Solo grinding is just a horrific grind post 24, I honestly do not see how anyone does it.

So my linkshell when we have 30 leves goes to wells for about 1 1/2hours then usally heads to Humble hearth or hollows/cedarwood. When we grind we almost always go to the blackshroud or Corethas... those 2 places just have the best party grinding camps in the game atm.

[Dubont]

Most my whole ls would be in that boat. soloing...well anything in this game is just not effective at all.

Group leves and grinds yield about 2 fold the sp you get in solo leves. Solo grinding is just a horrific grind post 24, I honestly do not see how anyone does it.

So my linkshell when we have 30 leves goes to wells for about 1 1/2hours then usally heads to Humble hearth or hollows/cedarwood. When we grind we almost always go to the blackshroud or Corethas... those 2 places just have the best party grinding camps in the game atm.

that's why we don't solo...because its horrible...but there are other ways to party than just LS parties. What ever happened to picking up random strangers to go grind? No one does this in this game...there were absolutely 0 parties looking for members today...none...

@ Renta: Wrong, actually. Birds (otw to mor dhona) offer some nice mid-level SP, depending on your party size.

[Xatsh]

that's why we don't solo...because its horrible...but there are other ways to party than just LS parties. What ever happened to picking up random strangers to go grind? No one does this in this game...there were absolutely 0 parties looking for members today...none...

@ Renta: Wrong, actually. Birds (otw to mor dhona) offer some nice mid-level SP, depending on your party size.

I wish people would party up like at launch (I remember being in Hollows in crab partys for countless hours), my ls does ls groups because we have to.

No one uses the party search like they use to, so since no one uses it the only way to guarantee partys is to schedule them as linkshell events.

I had so many ppl quit since launch because of the lack of partys (literally like 23), and I assume other LS's have the same outcome as mine. I just do not understand the community issue in this game. In XI everyone learned from each other and went to the forum for guidance... in this game you post a camp is good... and 8 people flame you for "Lying since sp outside leves cannot be good".... really saddens me.

Part of the issue is SE because of lack of content, but at least 25% of the issues is the community itself.

[Rentahamster]

@ Renta: Wrong, actually. Birds (otw to mor dhona) offer some nice mid-level SP, depending on your party size.

It's not as good as Efts, and the bird population is hard to sustain.

I outlined the current issues with open world grinding and how to fix it here, specifically:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-How-to-Fix-it

[Dubont]

It's not as good as Efts, and the bird population is hard to sustain.

I outlined the current issues with open world grinding and how to fix it here, specifically:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-How-to-Fix-it

mhmm but there has been little mention of this from SE, yes?