20% Coil Buff Not Being Implemented???

[Mergadeth]

Ahem.. so.. because YOUR FC hasn't beaten it yet, they should go with the 20% Echo buff.. but you don't NEED it.. *but you still haven't beat it yet.

But we did beat it. See my earlier thread post here. Im not sure how you got that interpretation from what i was saying either. It's pretty simple, I was saying it would have been nice to have an extra 5% but i was being positive and saying i was sure we didn't need it to succeede. And we didn't! Hooray! However, it may have given us just a bit more breathing room is all. By no means do i expect SE to cater to my FC specifically either.

I mean, sure, I could dig this hole with a bigger shovel but the medium one i have now will do just fine...just might take a bit more effort.

Buff or no buff the win still felt good. Some part of me wishes we could have been one of the groups to down her before the echo....it is what it is.

[KingOfAbyss]

But we did beat it. See my earlier thread post here. Im not sure how you got that interpretation from what i was saying either. It's pretty simple, I was saying it would have been nice to have an extra 5% but i was being positive and saying i was sure we didn't need it to succeede. And we didn't! Hooray! However, it may have given us just a bit more breathing room is all. By no means do i expect SE to cater to my FC specifically either.

I mean, sure, I could dig this hole with a bigger shovel but the medium one i have now will do just fine...just might take a bit more effort.

Buff or no buff the win still felt good. Some part of me wishes we could have been one of the groups to down her before the echo....it is what it is.

One word: AWESOME!

By the time I logged into the forums and had to do other things.. I didn't see that one: Congratulations!

The issues we have and still need to tweak are mostly people not paying attention

I remember someone's Sig:
Paying attention and dodging in games? Ain't nobody got time for that! ^^

[Antanias]

I myself am curious about the delay in the echo buff. I don't need it, but I'd like to be able to help out some friends and ls mates that haven't beaten the content yet.

[wicked-one]

Pft, 20%? ... now we are on 15% and most Instances are more challenging than Coil1-5 anymore...

honestly, I am no friend of Echo...

[Crevox]

Don't think it's needed. Even in turn 5, if you're wiping, it's almost certainly due to not understanding or obeying the mechanics (dive bomb, twister, conflag, dreadknight, etc). Any party that is wiping right now that can't get it down wouldn't really be helped by the echo, because DPS requirements/healing are not the problem.

More HP/healing will not save you from twister, dive bomb will likely just wreck everyone (have to hit twice still), conflag will still just kill the person inside, etc.

The damage increase might help on conflags/dreadknights/snakes, but if you STILL are not meeting the DPS checks that exist on these even after all this echo, again, you either aren't playing properly or not understanding the mechanics; more echo won't help.

[Mergadeth]

Don't think it's needed. Even in turn 5, if you're wiping, it's almost certainly due to not understanding or obeying the mechanics (dive bomb, twister, conflag, dreadknight, etc). Any party that is wiping right now that can't get it down wouldn't really be helped by the echo, because DPS requirements/healing are not the problem.

More HP/healing will not save you from twister, dive bomb will likely just wreck everyone (have to hit twice still), conflag will still just kill the person inside, etc.

The damage increase might help on conflags/dreadknights/snakes, but if you STILL are not meeting the DPS checks that exist on these even after all this echo, again, you either aren't playing properly or not understanding the mechanics; more echo won't help.

You hit the nail on the head. We beat it once people got their poop in a group and put their hearts into it. 15% is enough and still challenges my more casual group to actually play.

[Kyoreore]

For those of you wondering, the 20% echo along with fantasia, and the continuation of the relic quest will be implemented in patch 2.28 which we won't get until sometime past May 24th as that is when the live letter will take place. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a727489f63a43c

If you scroll down, one of the topics is patch 2.28. As live letters always discuss future content, piece it together.

[Antanias]

For those of you wondering, the 20% echo along with fantasia, and the continuation of the relic quest will be implemented in patch 2.28 which we won't get until sometime past May 24th as that is when the live letter will take place. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a727489f63a43c

If you scroll down, one of the topics is patch 2.28. As live letters always discuss future content, piece it together.

We're referring to the chart that was posted with the 13th live letter in which the buff would increase every two weeks. It's now the third week since 2.25 :/

[Mergadeth]

For those of you wondering, the 20% echo along with fantasia, and the continuation of the relic quest will be implemented in patch 2.28 which we won't get until sometime past May 24th as that is when the live letter will take place. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a727489f63a43c

If you scroll down, one of the topics is patch 2.28. As live letters always discuss future content, piece it together.

off topic a bit but i'm kicking myself for the fact that i'm probably going to buy a fantasia just to change my eye color..... you got me SE, you got me....

[Nekodar]

Based on people that checked coil after patch, I think we can safely assume that we will not get 20% echo until 2.28.

The timeline shown in the 13th live letter was the then current plan, but we know already that plans for other things have changed since then, so I don't consider it a big deal.
Would be nice with confirmation, but I'm not going to throw a hissy fit over any lack of confirmation.