20% Coil Buff Not Being Implemented???

[kukurumei]

Genuinely curious why you think T7 is a static killer. Enrage timer is almost impossible to reach (unless you had 4+ deaths during the fight), RNG can be gotten around (leaving a renauld up until a new one spawns), and it's a pretty forgiving fight.

T8 is only a tad difficult because of the enrage timer, imho.

No I would say T7 is harder then twin definitely, T7 is not an easy to manage turn, T6 even with cheat is still somewhat comparable.

The thing is, what we have learned in t5 is prep work for future turns. You can't say algebra is hard after learning geometry, because one builds upon another.

And finally T5 was so not youtubed Mr.happy much like how T9 isn't. Stop using other groups ideas like your own and call it easy.

Everyone was wtf howto beat dive bombs...Till BG went...hey stack on the ditch. everyone went OMFG...now it's standard.

[Noahlimits]

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Where in my post did I say twin was harder than t7? Everything you're saying is putting words into my mouth, and even if I did say those things you can't definitively say I'm wrong; it's my opinion. It is not fact that t5 is harder than t7 or vice versa. And yes, I found t5 (post twister nerf, of course) and t7 not very difficult. And considering I don't like spending 30+ hours wiping while trying to learn the mechanics of a fight, of course I watched a video/read a guide before doing them. If you're saying that suddenly makes a fight ezmode, I'm not even sure what to say.

And personally, I strongly dislike Mr. Happy videos. He makes the fights way more complicated then they really have to be. He should really keep it simple.

[Mergadeth]

Everyone was wtf howto beat dive bombs...Till BG went...hey stack on the ditch. everyone went OMFG...now it's standard.

Curious to know if there was any other intended way to beat the dive bombs or if that ditch method is the ONLY way...

[Lithera]

With the 15% the tanks can snooze through the whole encounter nearly. Healers still need to be somewhat on their game since every so often there'll be a DS that the tank can't fully mitigate and the snakes can hurt, but all in all it's not that bad. The DPS checks are a laugh unless you're trying to clear it at absolute minimum ilevel. In fact the echo buff can cause DPS to push high enough to cause a conflag to be up during divebombs. As for divebombs, it's already been said that you can pretty near just spread out and eat them now. As long as you have the OT soak during the initial phase after adds you'll still get your T3 LB for snakes which makes them a cakewalk. I can PUG a group now and reach Twisters. Twisters are the one mechanic that the Echo will do NOTHING for. The DPS check on the dreadknights is much more forgiving with the Echo.

In short, the Echo buff is strong enough as is. Anything more will likely start glitching the fight with stupid phase changes and even if you made the rest of the fight a faceroll, if you can't manage the twister mechanic you will never clear it. Too many people are obsessed with nerfing fights to the point of tank n spank. What's the fun if you can brute force through mechanics?

[SDaemon]

It's actually understandable that you guys didn't communicate straight away and I think a lot of people shouldn't make it into as big a deal as it seems. After all, you are gathering and studying data and making adjustments as you see fit. While these adjustments might not seem necessary, it's clear the impact is being judged.


All the same, even just a less formal shout out, tweet, or some quick method to say something like:

"Echo buff isn't being increased due to number of players now progressing through the content."

In the end, I appreciate the work and effort put in. Keep it up guys!

They would have had to come to their conclusion before or even the day of. All they needed to do was share their decision then or even within the next few day after. Instead, silence. While I do appreciate that SE finally had him say something and even this most recent post, I still don't agree on the lack of communication.

[Laraul]

They would have had to come to their conclusion before or even the day of. All they needed to do was share their decision then or even within the next few day after. Instead, silence. While I do appreciate that SE finally had him say something and even this most recent post, I still don't agree on the lack of communication.

They must reach a conclusion on what to do before it's announced. To assume making a decision is easy is unfair, It could have complex and possible unseen complications to game play, and should be carefully considered. It would be unfair to everyone too announce a decision to early only later to say "we changed our minds." People would lose all trust and faith in the developers.

[SDaemon]

They must reach a conclusion on what to do before it's announced. To assume making a decision that could have complex and possible unseen complications to game play is unrealistic. And it would be unfair to everyone too announce a decision to early only later to say "we changed our minds."

You mean the conclusion not to boost the echo bonus? Clearly a decision was made before the day came because there was no boost. I'm not advocating they announce this weeks in advance. But the proposed deadline came, went and passed into even more days and still no word was given. This situation isn't like announcing a proposed feature and then the day before saying "sorry we are holding off on this for awhile".

[SDaemon]

The 'people left behind' can learn the fight and clear it themselves as the rest of us did well before the echo update.

Or buy it. That's the way a lot of people went in Titan's early days.

[Fynlar]

how do you know this? 0 damage does not prevent knockback.

Taking 0 damage prevents most (all?) forms of status ailments that come along with the attack, and knockback is included among those.

Don't believe me? Try going up to Ifrit with a fresh Stoneskin up, and take a Vulcan Burst (low damage + knockback aoe, shouldn't take long for him to use it). Watch and be amazed as the people with intact Stoneskins are not flown backward.

[SDaemon]

Be a teacher. Use that mentality. Explain to the principle and committee that the reason why 95% of your class isn't passing your curriculum is because they can learn and clear it themselves like the other 5%. They sure gonna wanna keep you around.

Gotta love logical fallacies.