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    Question ELEMENTAL WHEEL REWORKED ?

    Do you guys think this will ever happen and if they will bring it back into FFXIV ARR battle system?

    For people who don't know this is why it was taken out.

    "Q29: Do you have any plans to implement elemental weaknesses/resistances? Also, please tell us why you eliminated these.

    A29: There was already a lengthy response about this on the Beta forum, but to give you an example, if you are fighting Ifrit and his weakness is water, then classes and jobs that are proficient in fire would be excluded from participating. Since we want to make participating in content easy with the Duty Finder, we felt that this wasn’t good and decided to get rid of it."
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    Considering how thoroughly the Dev Team has fled away from elemental weaknesses and strengths? No, it won't get worked into the Battle System again.

    Your reminder of the "reasons" it was taken out show why it wouldn't be worked back in. In fact it's kind of boggling that it happened at all.
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    They would have to rework CNJ and THM to do it properly otherwise there would be situations where THM/BLM would be gimped badly due to elemental resistances seeing as they only have access to Fire, Ice and Thunder natively and Thunder isn't even a nuke persay. You'd never want a BLM on Ifrit for instance as at best he'd take half damage from fire if not 0 damage or absorb, leaving BLM with Ice nukes and Thunder. WHM/CNJ has Air, Earth and Water and only Stone is an actual nuke. This is beside the fact they're a healer role not a DPS. SMN at the moment would be rough as well since they don't have the six elements covered yet.
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    I hope they some how do find away to rework it back in some how. Wish it never got taken out. It worked really well in FFXI. Sad really that they thought the way they did and took it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by gornotck View Post
    Considering how thoroughly the Dev Team has fled away from elemental weaknesses and strengths? No, it won't get worked into the Battle System again.

    Your reminder of the "reasons" it was taken out show why it wouldn't be worked back in. In fact it's kind of boggling that it happened at all.
    Don't you feel like the fact that they took it out makes the summons for summoner kind of pointless. And even with the new egi's to come have to wonder is there any point to the egis being an element in the first places. Since you never really see people use ifrit because his element is fire and could be useful into for an mob that is weak against fire. When Levi comes out will people still only use Garuda. This is why i hope they find away to rework it in some how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    I hope they some how do find away to rework it back in some how. Wish it never got taken out. It worked really well in FFXI. Sad really that they thought the way they did and took it out.
    It worked in FFXI because every caster had access to every element. This is not the case in FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    It worked in FFXI because every caster had access to every element. This is not the case in FFXIV.
    Yup, which is really sad that they don't in ARR. I think I remember them having it in 1.x, but think Yoshida said something like not wanting people to have to much to think about or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Yup, which is really sad that they don't in ARR. I think I remember them having it in 1.x, but think Yoshida said something like not wanting people to have to much to think about or something.
    "Yoshida said something like not wanting people to have to much to think about or something" That really makes me fell like he thinks that people wouldn't be able to use there brain if this was added and people would have a panic attack and a brain melt down lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    "Yoshida said something like not wanting people to have to much to think about or something" That really makes me fell like he thinks that people wouldn't be able to use there brain if this was added and people would have a panic attack and a brain melt down lol.
    Judging by how I see people now with how easy everything is yet they still can't do it (Literally pressing 2 buttons to move out of landslide/plumes comes to mind lol), I'm sure people might >.> Tbh, I'd love for more stuff that made you think / change what you use depending on weakness.

    From what I read, a lot of the good stuff was taken out/never added, because Yoshi stated it'd "cause stress for players"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    It worked in FFXI because every caster had access to every element. This is not the case in FFXIV.
    Can't really say it "worked" in XI rather it made mage classes more useful in content because of the elemental weakness circle which is why they pullled away from using such a concept in 14.
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