Broken Wards (again <.>)

[Wolfie]

well yeah it still needs work, the "spreading" idea wont fix it alone. But it is one of the main factors, at the moment anyway.

You know the only "fix" is to just toss more hardware at it, right? Which isn't really feasible or wise.

[Seif]

Just make it an AH please enough devtime has already been wasted on this disaster that keeps this game from having a stable economy.

[giftforce]

BRING IT TO THE STREEEEETS.

I mean, really, why not create a true, bustling market system insteaf of this pathetic imitation that is rampant with flaws. Just let people put up stands in the streets or build shops and villages or something.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

BRING IT TO THE STREEEEETS.

I mean, really, why not create a true, bustling market system insteaf of this pathetic imitation that is rampant with flaws. Just let people put up stands in the streets or build shops and villages or something.

that idea has been shot down 50+ times already...... yes lets take a lag problem that is isolated in one zone, and move it into the city where even more people are running and doing things... yeah that's a great idea. *rolls eyes*

[Estellios]

I like that street marketplace idea but I'm not sure there's enough physical room for them with how the cities are now. I like the whole "rent a stand and decorate it" thing we have that could be expanded on in the future. The problem will only get worse if this game manages to bring in many players. I really do like the concepts behind retainers and market wards though so I would like to see what things they have in store before they think about getting rid of them.

Actually thinking about it now, maybe a gigantic area specifically for this purpose is part of the city redesign? Huge shopping mall/districts type areas?

[Tempestmoon]

I like that street marketplace idea but I'm not sure there's enough physical room for them with how the cities are now. I like the whole "rent a stand and decorate it" thing we have that could be expanded on in the future. The problem will only get worse if this game manages to bring in many players. I really do like the concepts behind retainers and market wards though so I would like to see what things they have in store before they think about getting rid of them.

Actually thinking about it now, maybe a gigantic area specifically for this purpose is part of the city redesign? Huge shopping mall/districts type areas?

I would definatly welcome this Idea, don't put retainers in the current city zone. Put them in a new LARGE market area, Fill this area with small shops and stands that need to be rented out. It could be a huge gil sink in the game and spread out the retainers. Every retainer must be either a full shop or pre-designated stand. The bigger your shop the more rent you need to pay. Break this area into the different wards but on the same map and indicate the districts on the map. Have A telelporter taru at the beginning to tele you to the different area's so you don't have to walk as far. Maintain the same search function as a sort of customer service desk so you can find the item you want, indicate it on the map, teleport to the area and grab your item. Also support the ability to identify more then one item at a time.

it's all clear in my head and I think such a system would really bring the DoH to life!

[Estellios]

I would definatly welcome this Idea, don't put retainers in the current city zone. Put them in a new LARGE market area, Fill this area with small shops and stands that need to be rented out. It could be a huge gil sink in the game and spread out the retainers. Every retainer must be either a full shop or pre-designated stand. The bigger your shop the more rent you need to pay. Break this area into the different wards but on the same map and indicate the districts on the map. Have A telelporter taru at the beginning to tele you to the different area's so you don't have to walk as far. Maintain the same search function as a sort of customer service desk so you can find the item you want, indicate it on the map, teleport to the area and grab your item. Also support the ability to identify more then one item at a time.

it's all clear in my head and I think such a system would really bring the DoH to life!

Yea those were my thoughts exactly. Also, if they make stands mandatory to sell stuff and have it cost gil to maintain a stand, it could take some gil out of the economy and rotate people out of the wards. The price could start off really low so that new players can sell things but would rise exponentially every day you keep the spot so the player has to decide if its worth it to keep it or just let the time run out. There would have to be limits in place so that people can't cancel a lease then renew the stand and keep the price low. Maybe you can't rent a stand for a day when a lease runs out.

[GabbaGabba]

hmm how about give each ward some floors, that way it can be say spellcaster ward with 4-5 floors that you can take with an elevator.

also listing the floor to which that retainer is in the search window. it keeps each ward instanced so you wont have an expanded area with a ton of retainers, well maybe increase it a lil bit to add more stands.

something more drastic would be that you can only have 1 retainer selling items at a time.

[Anonymoose]

What's with all the black and white options? Gray is the new black:

IMO, the most satisfying system to both players and economy stresses would be a central auction house in Ishgard with representative hubs linking to it in all three cities, and then leave the wards as they are (Sunday JPN Midnight Resets) in case people want to run Rolanberry Markets style afk-bazaars. I, for one, know that I'd use both rather frequently, so I'm definitely not choosing sides on this issue.

If both were in place, with each having their own set of standards/regulations for listing items (Stack required? Tax rate? Listing time? True Auction or Sales Listing? Etc etc etc) - I think they'd be a great complementary balance to one another.

[Sagagemini]

What's with all the black and white options? Gray is the new black:

IMO, the most satisfying system to both players and economy stresses would be a central auction house in Ishgard with representative hubs linking to it in all three cities, and then leave the wards as they are (Sunday JPN Midnight Resets) in case people want to run Rolanberry Markets style afk-bazaars. I, for one, know that I'd use both rather frequently, so I'm definitely not choosing sides on this issue.

If both were in place, with each having their own set of standards/regulations for listing items (Stack required? Tax rate? Listing time? True Auction or Sales Listing? Etc etc etc) - I think they'd be a great complementary balance to one another.

The best idea so far!