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  1. #21
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    Estellios's Avatar
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    I like that street marketplace idea but I'm not sure there's enough physical room for them with how the cities are now. I like the whole "rent a stand and decorate it" thing we have that could be expanded on in the future. The problem will only get worse if this game manages to bring in many players. I really do like the concepts behind retainers and market wards though so I would like to see what things they have in store before they think about getting rid of them.

    Actually thinking about it now, maybe a gigantic area specifically for this purpose is part of the city redesign? Huge shopping mall/districts type areas?
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    Last edited by Estellios; 07-18-2011 at 03:33 PM.

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    Gabba Gabba
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    hmm how about give each ward some floors, that way it can be say spellcaster ward with 4-5 floors that you can take with an elevator.

    also listing the floor to which that retainer is in the search window. it keeps each ward instanced so you wont have an expanded area with a ton of retainers, well maybe increase it a lil bit to add more stands.

    something more drastic would be that you can only have 1 retainer selling items at a time.
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  3. #23
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    Anony Moose
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    What's with all the black and white options? Gray is the new black:

    IMO, the most satisfying system to both players and economy stresses would be a central auction house in Ishgard with representative hubs linking to it in all three cities, and then leave the wards as they are (Sunday JPN Midnight Resets) in case people want to run Rolanberry Markets style afk-bazaars. I, for one, know that I'd use both rather frequently, so I'm definitely not choosing sides on this issue.

    If both were in place, with each having their own set of standards/regulations for listing items (Stack required? Tax rate? Listing time? True Auction or Sales Listing? Etc etc etc) - I think they'd be a great complementary balance to one another.
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 07-18-2011 at 06:12 PM.
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    I will bet you all my gils(40mil). If SE willing to link all three wards together, Uldah's Ward Full issue will be resolved.
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    Livi Fi
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    If I can hardly summon my retainer in wards now, what about if/when population rises after patches or PS3 release?
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolBlitz View Post
    I will bet you all my gils(40mil). If SE willing to link all three wards together, Uldah's Ward Full issue will be resolved.
    How would this work btw? i would be in Uldah market and search for a item and be teleported to Limsa's market ? could i then be able to come out to Limsa's street lol? cause that would be a lame way to travel between citys xD
    Or if i wanted to come out i would always be teleported to to Uldah's streets? seems kinda weird in practice since ur physicly going to the retairners in a diferent part of the world, i would rather they made the text based interface if u buy from another city and the item would be delivered to my mog house or some... oh yea.... i miss my mog house T_T
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobushi View Post
    How would this work btw? i would be in Uldah market and search for a item and be teleported to Limsa's market ? could i then be able to come out to Limsa's street lol? cause that would be a lame way to travel between citys xD
    I would imagine in a similar way that XI's chocobo racing arena works
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  8. #28
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    Delsus Highwind
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    I will say this again, its because everyone wants to spam BW leves, its the only real reason to stay in uldah all the time, SE didnt intend for us to do this, they wanted us to spread out between all cities, if we did that we would have no problem with the wards.

    SE added the feature to re obtain failed leves because in the alpha and beta people were DCin and loosing leves completly, I know this cos I had to put up with it, then people started exploiting it at nophicas wells and BW so they never move from uldah, this is why Yoshi-P wants us to spread out. When people spread out if the next few patches go to plan it will be more viable to set up shop in LL and gridania, and the problem should disapear
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  9. #29
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    sell your item in available ward, not a full one.

    Btw, you need to complain again after patch 1.18 cuz they increase 1 more retainer for everyone and people who create 8 char will have 24 retainers to put in the ward lol..
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  10. #30
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    Mataya Tempestmoon
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    I like that street marketplace idea but I'm not sure there's enough physical room for them with how the cities are now. I like the whole "rent a stand and decorate it" thing we have that could be expanded on in the future. The problem will only get worse if this game manages to bring in many players. I really do like the concepts behind retainers and market wards though so I would like to see what things they have in store before they think about getting rid of them.

    Actually thinking about it now, maybe a gigantic area specifically for this purpose is part of the city redesign? Huge shopping mall/districts type areas?
    I would definatly welcome this Idea, don't put retainers in the current city zone. Put them in a new LARGE market area, Fill this area with small shops and stands that need to be rented out. It could be a huge gil sink in the game and spread out the retainers. Every retainer must be either a full shop or pre-designated stand. The bigger your shop the more rent you need to pay. Break this area into the different wards but on the same map and indicate the districts on the map. Have A telelporter taru at the beginning to tele you to the different area's so you don't have to walk as far. Maintain the same search function as a sort of customer service desk so you can find the item you want, indicate it on the map, teleport to the area and grab your item. Also support the ability to identify more then one item at a time.

    it's all clear in my head and I think such a system would really bring the DoH to life!
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