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    Lyrinn's Avatar
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    M'kael Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    That is your deliberate misinterpretation. You folks are always afraid of leeches. Perhaps you should request that SCH never apply leeches to you. In any case you see this kind of vote kick abuse:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...y-needs-to-end.

    Give the 1st-timers a chance to watch their cut scenes. They only see that once.
    You must not have been around for 2.0 when this really was commonplace. Votekick didn't exist back then so tanks would queue into CM and afk and there would be absolutely nothing you could do but report and leave. Why do you think people cried for votekick in the first place?
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    Bladeglory Ilucien
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    I'd ask the leader to stop Replenishing Ranks. It means you're down a tank, and there's less myth tomes granted, but...
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  3. #13
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    Hakaze Kusaribe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    You must not have been around for 2.0 when this really was commonplace. Votekick didn't exist back then so tanks would queue into CM and afk and there would be absolutely nothing you could do but report and leave. Why do you think people cried for votekick in the first place?
    I didn't get started until March, so no I was not around. But I am not against the vote kick option, and I am not asking that vote kick be changed from what it is now. I am just against vote kick abuse from the players. Vote kicking a 1st-timer watching cutscenes is obvious abuse. Vote kicking lesser-geared(a.k.a. undergeared depending on perspective) is also vote kick abuse. People should be able to join back from join in progress, although it is not clear why they would want to join back with the jerks, but some have thicker skin than others and they should be able to stand their ground.
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    Seraphima Cyngosa
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    Only seen this happen once recently,and was ifrit story mode. I queue as healer, two DPS were fantastic, but tank said "thanks for the win /afk" assumed they were joking, but sadly they weren't, had to wait to kick them, and everytime we did they came right back, ended up three manning it which was not easy and agro all over the place, when ifrit died the tank said "thanks now I can do more story quests" and left.. If only their was an eject from the game button, I would of used it on them
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    Raxion Gunsoul
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    I'd just leave the group and find another one.
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  6. #16
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    M'kael Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    I didn't get started until March, so no I was not around. But I am not against the vote kick option, and I am not asking that vote kick be changed from what it is now. I am just against vote kick abuse from the players. Vote kicking a 1st-timer watching cutscenes is obvious abuse. Vote kicking lesser-geared(a.k.a. undergeared depending on perspective) is also vote kick abuse. People should be able to join back from join in progress, although it is not clear why they would want to join back with the jerks, but some have thicker skin than others and they should be able to stand their ground.
    And what the OP is describing is not first timers watching cutscenes or being undergeared. It's very plainly leeching because the tank keeps returning and doing the same thing. I don't know about you, but if a group kicked me, I wouldn't want to rejoin that same group 3 times - unless, of course, I was there for the free myth ride because I know the group can't do anything about it.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    That is your deliberate misinterpretation. You folks are always afraid of leeches. Perhaps you should request that SCH never apply leeches to you. In any case you see this kind of vote kick abuse:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...y-needs-to-end.

    Give the 1st-timers a chance to watch their cut scenes. They only see that once.
    Where in earth did you get that the person in question was simply watching cut scenes from the OP??

    OP said.. "I am grouped with a Paladin that is not responding to any communication --- period. He is standing in the middle of Castrum Meridianum and isn't doing anything." Where does this say anything about a cut scene? Anywhere?

    If you are going to tell someone they are "deliberately misinterpreting" something you better have something more concrete to back you up other than your own possible misinterpretation. If anything, based on what the OP says, it is more likely to infer what others are saying (about leeching) than to assume they were watching a cut scene (since the party can clearly see when someone is in one and there is zero mention of it in the OP).

    As for the issue, yes simply adding something that prevents a person kicked from a party to rejoin that party would be the best solution.
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  8. #18
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    Sounds like you are trying to harass a 1st-timer tank trying to watch cutscenes. They need to disable vote kick when people are watching cutscenes, just like you can't bring it during combat.
    I'll prefer to disable vote kick if the dungeon validates that this person is doing that content for the first time. There're people that would just stuck in a cs dialog for the sake of trolling, knowing that they won't be kicked.

    OP: You can send your request to a GM, they'll evaluate if that user deserves a punishment or a small talk, based on that event.
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  9. #19
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    Ravinous Kurohi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    Sounds like you are trying to harass a 1st-timer tank trying to watch cutscenes. They need to disable vote kick when people are watching cutscenes, just like you can't bring it during combat.
    They aren't talking about people watching cutscenes. It shows it in the party list if the person is in a cutscene so you know if that's what they are doing. Also, they wouldn't keep re-queuing to go afk again over and over again and just stand there since the cutscene wouldn't play again.
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  10. #20
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    Double Toker
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    there is one way you could've stopped him. you couldve selected to not replace the player right away. kill some trash mobs without a tnk for a bit while he gets put into a different group. then after about 5-15 mins, open it up to replace him
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