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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAffinity View Post
    I work part of a small studio myself. I understand the process as well. I'm also hoping the quote statement above was just a general statement and not directed towards me as I was relatively clear in my original post I didn't believe they immediately began working on auto-attack.

    Also, while minor, we can't forget the other updates and improvements the game has seen thus far. Those also took time and resources. Yoshi and his team saw it a priority over auto-attack and allocated resources and time into minor UI improvements, NM's, mini-quests etc... all draining resources from different talents within their team. I still firmly believe they should have prioritized Auto-Attack and a battle system that makes sense over some of the other content that hasn't seem to have made much of a dent in improving the game, 10 months in.
    You cannot make content for a battle system that isnt made, you say you work for a small studio so you should know if you make somthing, it can have unforseen problems, people say make the content first then the battle system, but if you do that you have to rework the all the content that has been made for the differant mechanics and guess what that takes time as well.

    Its more logical to make a battle system then make content and fix the bugs rather than make loads of content, fix bugs, make a battle system, change the content, fix bugs.

    You cannot make content knowing they battle system will change and waste more resources changing the content to accomodate the new system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    You cannot make content for a battle system that isnt made, you say you work for a small studio so you should know if you make somthing, it can have unforseen problems, people say make the content first then the battle system, but if you do that you have to rework the all the content that has been made for the differant mechanics and guess what that takes time as well.

    Its more logical to make a battle system then make content and fix the bugs rather than make loads of content, fix bugs, make a battle system, change the content, fix bugs.

    You cannot make content knowing they battle system will change and waste more resources changing the content to accomodate the new system.
    You can work on both at the same time, that's what planning is for, and I'm pretty sure they have been doing that. It just takes a lot of time to do all of these thing, a lot more than most of you seem to realise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyWS View Post
    You can work on both at the same time, that's what planning is for, and I'm pretty sure they have been doing that. It just takes a lot of time to do all of these thing, a lot more than most of you seem to realise.
    They can work on both working on thorey, but you need to see what things need to work in practice as well or you will see loads of game breaking bugs.

    And i know it takes time I have said it about a million times to haters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    You cannot make content for a battle system that isnt made, you say you work for a small studio so you should know if you make somthing, it can have unforseen problems, people say make the content first then the battle system, but if you do that you have to rework the all the content that has been made for the differant mechanics and guess what that takes time as well.

    Its more logical to make a battle system then make content and fix the bugs rather than make loads of content, fix bugs, make a battle system, change the content, fix bugs.

    You cannot make content knowing they battle system will change and waste more resources changing the content to accomodate the new system.
    What part of "I firmly believe they should have prioritized auto-attack and a battle system that makes sense" made you believe I was asking for game content over much needed core changes?

    What you quoted, if you read over, should tell you I understand the need for improving the core mechanics of the game before releasing content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAffinity View Post
    What part of "I firmly believe they should have prioritized auto-attack and a battle system that makes sense" made you believe I was asking for game content over much needed core changes?

    What you quoted, if you read over, should tell you I understand the need for improving the core mechanics of the game before releasing content.
    Sorry must have missread your post in my rage over certain things lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Sorry must have missread your post in my rage over certain things lol
    It's fine, we agree on the same thing here anyway ~
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAffinity View Post
    What part of "I firmly believe they should have prioritized auto-attack and a battle system that makes sense" made you believe I was asking for game content over much needed core changes?

    What you quoted, if you read over, should tell you I understand the need for improving the core mechanics of the game before releasing content.
    That's fictional since that would mean nothing will ever get done.

    Content makers can still work with story board ideas and battle blueprints, etc.

    Things are worked on at the same time. While they may or may not be stalled by another department, it's still worked on.

    It is probably true they are understaffed, but that doesn't mean that you can have all hands on one aspect even if it's all important.

    It's also more proof why FF14 failed so badly the last few years in development, if nothing every got done to completion. Management is a skill for a reason. Efficient allocation of resources.
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