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    Cyrus-Wallace's Avatar
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I want the F.A.T.E. system to evolve rather than being removed. If they can change the world, affect players/NPCs and cities. F.A.T.E's in the middle of the city? A riot? fights between factions in the same city? Chained impressive boss F.A.T.E's like the Shadow Behemot in GW2? Towns being blocked for not being defended when X attacked it?
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    Zoloe's Avatar
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    Zoey Rose
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    I want the F.A.T.E. system to evolve rather than being removed. If they can change the world, affect players/NPCs and cities. F.A.T.E's in the middle of the city? A riot? fights between factions in the same city? Chained impressive boss F.A.T.E's like the Shadow Behemot in GW2? Towns being blocked for not being defended when X attacked it?
    I like these ideas! Reminds me of Besieged in FFXI where if people didn't participate, certain NPCs would disappear until someone went and rescued them from the Beastmen strongholds. Awesome stuff if they "evolved" into something like that.
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    Cerys Arctura
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    Lamia
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    If you hate FATEs, just don't do them? Nobody is forcing you. The only reason a level 50 has to do FATEs on a large scale is to get Atmas, but that's an issue with the Atma system itself, which is tied to issues like RNG.
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    Mandudez's Avatar
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    Man Dudez
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    Exodus
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Roserei View Post
    If you hate FATEs, just don't do them? Nobody is forcing you. The only reason a level 50 has to do FATEs on a large scale is to get Atmas, but that's an issue with the Atma system itself, which is tied to issues like RNG.
    Please tell us how we can do half of the content in this game without touching a FATE lol...
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    Please tell us how we can do half of the content in this game without touching a FATE lol...
    There is three things that require completing FATEs in order to proceed with content:
    1) Labyrinth of the Ancients
    2) Up in arms (atma farm)
    3) Trials of the braves (book part of the zodiak questline)

    Beast tribe dailies belong to optional content together with special events and seasonal events.

    Even if you count dailies and events into content, you're still not even close to half of the content of the game.

    The majority of content in the game don't require FATEs to be done at all.
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    Pandastirfry's Avatar
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    Meneyota Kunyaa
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    There is three things that require completing FATEs in order to proceed with content:
    1) Labyrinth of the Ancients
    2) Up in arms (atma farm)
    3) Trials of the braves (book part of the zodiak questline)

    Beast tribe dailies belong to optional content together with special events and seasonal events.

    Even if you count dailies and events into content, you're still not even close to half of the content of the game.

    The majority of content in the game don't require FATEs to be done at all.
    Heck haven't only two seasonal events have a mandatory fate so far, only ones that spring to mind were Summer and Christmas. And I guess you can count the Lightning/XI/dragon quest event in there, but all the other events so far have been quests, an if you're going to complain about having to do a fate to unlock CT, I found having to do specific guildhests to progress the main story was far more annoying.
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    Last edited by Pandastirfry; 05-11-2014 at 04:20 AM.

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    Man Dudez
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    Exodus
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    There is three things that require completing FATEs in order to proceed with content:
    1) Labyrinth of the Ancients
    2) Up in arms (atma farm)
    3) Trials of the braves (book part of the zodiak questline)

    Beast tribe dailies belong to optional content together with special events and seasonal events.

    Even if you count dailies and events into content, you're still not even close to half of the content of the game.

    The majority of content in the game don't require FATEs to be done at all.
    Where did I specify what type of content uses fates? Content is content. Go ahead and start a new character and report back at how much fun you're having by avoiding FATEs lol.
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    Luxx's Avatar
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    Cress Albane
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Roserei View Post
    Nobody is forcing you.
    In order to do Crystal Tower - CT, you HAVE to do FATE's.
    There is no if and or buts about it because there is no way to progress otherwise.
    No body is forcing you yes, but you're missing out on content because of it.

    Atma's, optional, but if you want to progress there's no way to go around it.
    :/
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Luxx View Post
    In order to do Crystal Tower - CT, you HAVE to do FATE's.
    There is no if and or buts about it because there is no way to progress otherwise.
    No body is forcing you yes, but you're missing out on content because of it.

    Atma's, optional, but if you want to progress there's no way to go around it.
    :/
    SE could also force you to kill specific NMs. They could also do it that the NMs despawn if they don't get killed during a specific time frame after it spawned (there would be not a visible timer). And how the claiming works, everyone would be able to fight against the NM for the quest without to claim it.

    Would this be better?
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-11-2014 at 04:23 AM.

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    Blackweaver's Avatar
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    Kailia Greenheart
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I don't think fates should be removed at all. Fates are great ways for FC's to get points for FC buffs. They are really the best choice if you want to level another class on your main, and my FC's story (RP FC) has us as we travel through the world, acknowledge and do the fates we run across. It adds more dynamics to the roleplay. So no, fates are fine as they are.
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