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  1. #41
    Player
    ShinChuck's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/08
    投稿
    289
    Character
    Cinnaris Artai
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    格闘士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Greencactaur 投稿を閲覧
    It makes no sense why people complain about jumping. Even if someone does it 20000 times a session does it really matter? Mind your own business and let people do what they want. Like seriously it doesn't affect you in anyway.
    Thank you. This exactly.

    You can apply the same logic to so many things (someone mentioned running earlier, another astute observation).

    Maybe your stupid Onion Helm pisses me of. I don't care if it's classic, it looks dumb, and it annoys me. Maybe it pisses me off that a lot of people have them (and they were all over at launch). Does that mean it's worth chucking from the game? No, it darn well means I need to grow up and get over myself.

    And in the case of things like jump, there's practical value there, not just aesthetics, making it even more absurd - if anything, you should be arguing against Onion Helms and stupid outfits before even thinking about going after a practical gameplay element.
    (4)
    "Everyone is tired of waiting for improvements, and being made to feel like we expect too much when everyone else in the gaming world gets the freaking job done."

    - Rowyne Moonsong

  2. #42
    Player
    Raistlin's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/09
    Location
    Palanthas
    投稿
    481
    Character
    Raistlin Majere
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:Dreamer 投稿を閲覧
    I'm actually all for there being actual differences between the different races. Perhaps if there were some actual benefits and drawbacks to the choices, we wouldn't have the legion of catgirls running around.
    If there are so many catgirls is just coz that race is cool and people like seeing them. if u make hyur to jump highter than lalafell, they can surpass obstacles that others cant, and that is totally unacceptable. they will never benefit a race against other one, so for that reason, forget to see a cool and perfect jump for everybody. someone will jump too low or someone will jump too high, but all races will have the same posibilities.

    And that will be totally uncool:

    - A Hyur jumping enough high to surpass an obstacle, but the game will not alow him coz visual jump dont fit real jump height
    - A Hyur jumping so low that seems.. stupid coz i can jump highter and i am not a Hero.
    - A lalafell jumping low but your character allow to surpass a obstacle and your character "cross" through it.
    - A lalafell jumping so high that it would seem unrealistic or uncool.

    is a hard decision, and not everyone will be happy.
    (0)

  3. #43
    Player
    zaviermhigo's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/09
    Location
    Uldah
    投稿
    1,820
    Character
    Zavier Mhigo
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    巴術士 Lv 80
    I think because of the multitude of bunny hop WoW parodies which float around on youtube. The free WoW Jump spammer marketing makes it seem like all WoW people jump spam. Personally I found F2P players to be jump spammers since they're usually younger. All Blizzard did with WoW was create the "MMO Masses"
    (0)

  4. #44
    Player
    Arcell's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/09
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    投稿
    3,487
    Character
    Arc Jurado
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    機工士 Lv 70
    The only kind of limitation I ask for is no jumping in battle. Reason I mention this is because in Aion Rangers would exploit jump to cancel combat animations and that became the only accepted way to play the class. Single handedly made me not want to play the class.
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  5. #45
    Player
    Griss's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/08
    Location
    The Void
    投稿
    1,806
    Character
    Griss Stilgar
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    機工士 Lv 100
    Don't you know? W.o.W was apparently the first mmo, nay first video game ever.
    (0)
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  6. #46
    Player
    Dreamer's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/18
    Location
    Balmung (USA, EST)
    投稿
    1,417
    Character
    Mocha Leporina
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:Raistlin 投稿を閲覧
    If there are so many catgirls is just coz that race is cool and people like seeing them. if u make hyur to jump highter than lalafell, they can surpass obstacles that others cant, and that is totally unacceptable. they will never benefit a race against other one, so for that reason, forget to see a cool and perfect jump for everybody. someone will jump too low or someone will jump too high, but all races will have the same posibilities.

    And that will be totally uncool:

    - A Hyur jumping enough high to surpass an obstacle, but the game will not alow him coz visual jump dont fit real jump height
    - A Hyur jumping so low that seems.. stupid coz i can jump highter and i am not a Hero.
    - A lalafell jumping low but your character allow to surpass a obstacle and your character "cross" through it.
    - A lalafell jumping so high that it would seem unrealistic or uncool.

    is a hard decision, and not everyone will be happy.
    Well, if you've completed some of the Limsa quests, you know that Lalafell have the best 'distance' of all the races already. ^-~

    I personally wouldn't mind having FFVII style-jumping.
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  7. #47
    Player
    Reika's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/09
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    投稿
    4,429
    Character
    Reika Shadowheart
    World
    Durandal
    Main Class
    甲冑師 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Arcell 投稿を閲覧
    The only kind of limitation I ask for is no jumping in battle. Reason I mention this is because in Aion Rangers would exploit jump to cancel combat animations and that became the only accepted way to play the class. Single handedly made me not want to play the class.
    Well thats aion. If they decided not to fix that, then..... thats a korean MMO for you, expect the same from TERA .

    Jumping could have some fun implementations in combat, without the suspicion of exploits.
    (0)

  8. #48
    Player
    Cendres's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/09
    Location
    Gridania
    投稿
    947
    Character
    Cindrie Estelloix
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:Ashthra 投稿を閲覧
    You know, I rather like the jump animations in WoW. But then, I actually find WoW's art style to be endearing; like a 3D stylized oil painting. And after spending three years playing FFXI, where a pebble can cause you a 45 minute detour, jumping was the single greatest thing that I'd ever been introduced to in the MMO genre.
    lolol... My sides.. ^_^;; I always hated that, FFXI was and is wonderful but it does have it's extra annoying quirks that made me quit and come back more times then I care to count.
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  9. #49
    Player
    zaviermhigo's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/09
    Location
    Uldah
    投稿
    1,820
    Character
    Zavier Mhigo
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    巴術士 Lv 80
    But in XIV a pebble won't stop you for 45 mins, they lessened collision detection. Show me a youtube video of you hiking where you jump up cliffs and over rocks all the time. You don't. You scale up cliffs similar to the way we do now, and you walk around big rocks. Just saying people say jump adds more realism, or jump will make this easier, and either way it won't. Yoshi-P already said jump won't help us get anywhere faster, it seems more like how anima was just a ploy so people could "unstick" themselves when they got beta jankified, jump with just be another one of those I'm janked somewhere fixes on the players end.
    (0)

  10. #50
    Player
    Cendres's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/09
    Location
    Gridania
    投稿
    947
    Character
    Cindrie Estelloix
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 90
    No In FFXIV you just can't hop down a simple ledge. Same difference.
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